• IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
    2152·
    2 years ago

    I remember reading that when national parks tried to make a ‘bear-proof’ trashcan, they found that there was a larger overlap between the smartest bear and the stupidest human to make a viable product.

    I feel like it’s a similar situation here. The smartest kid and the stupidest adult are far more similar than we’d like to admit.

    • AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca
      691·
      2 years ago

      Tbh I find it much more surprising that there’s an overlap of bears and stupid people than I do smart kids and dumb adults.

      I’ve met an unfortunate amount of people that would struggle to dump water out of their boots with the instructions written on the bottom of the sole.

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
      19·
      2 years ago

      I think it’s more like: the maturest kids and the most immature adults.

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
      17·
      2 years ago

      Side note: the National Park Service has an awesome team running their social media accounts. Their posts are always hilarious and informative.

    • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Funny, I came here to make the exact same analogy. I totally agree - a mature kid and an immature adult have a lot of overlap.

    • frazw@lemmy.worldEnglish
      46·
      2 years ago

      Because you are a kid and you don’t know but are pretending to be an adult. Nice try!

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
      8·
      2 years ago

      Everyone knows you hop on another kid’s shoulders and put on a trenchcoat, fedora, and sunglasses and gave the name Robert Businessman.

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
    1707·
    2 years ago

    Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
        22·
        2 years ago

        What I wrote – Very easily impressed with basic factual statements

        What you think it means – there’s something wrong with people who are learning new things.

        Does ‘‘basic factual statements’’ mean ‘‘new information that someone is just now learning’’. Can it also apply to information they already know, or believe is true? Can it also be referring to basic knowledge nearly everyone knows?

        Does ‘being very easily impressed’ include a situation where someone reacts to information in a typical fashion? Does it exclude adults learning or recognizing factual information and responding with a simple agreement, such as ‘yeah that’s true’? Or is this an indication that an overreacting response is the dead giveaway?

        1. Did the sentance make a claim something is wrong with being a child?

        2. Did the sentence claim that learning new information is likewise something wrong?

        Please write one 5 sentance paragraph explaining your opinion on the above two numbered questions. Proofreading will not be necessary.

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 years ago

        It’s like I tell my kids, an adult is just a child who got old. It’s also why a lot of cultures have a concept of adulthood that has nothing to do with reaching sexual maturity alone.

    • DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      172·
      2 years ago

      This is like reading a reverse horoscope - you’ve just thrown as many negative traits as you could think of at the wall, knowing at least a few will stick.

      Nothing on your list couldn’t also apply to an adult, especially those most privileged and entitled in society.

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 years ago

      Those first two…and a couple others, also apply to a lot of adults I have had political conversations with the past several years…

  • Wugmeister@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1002·
    2 years ago

    Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.

    There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn’t have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that’s American.

  • communism@lemmy.ml
    951·
    2 years ago

    I don’t think there is a “dead giveaway”. Plenty of kids can pass as adults online and plenty of adults seem like kids online. And sometimes with stuff like word usage/grammar/etc you can’t tell if it’s a child or someone who doesn’t speak English very well or maybe an English-speaking adult who happens to type like that. There’s a lot of different people in the world.

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
      291·
      2 years ago

      Yeah seriously, every time someone makes a generalization online “that subreddit is all 12 year olds anyway”, “r/teenagers is mainly grown me”, it really bothers me because no, you’re just overconfident in estimating people’s ages from text

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 years ago

      I can’t get over ironically using stupid lingo, without being good at presenting it as ironic use…so I often seem like a child. I am certainly bad at forming sentences that are not stream of thought (with weird punctuation like parentheses containing clarification…like this…and overused ellipsis…)

  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
    741·
    2 years ago

    “Redditors of Reddit, how do you sexily sex the sex out of sexy sex???”

    Serious response: you can’t really make a very general rule. There are a lot of people who write quite maturely since their teens, and a lot of people who are morons since their teens and have endless dedication and determination to remain in that state for as long as they breathe.

    • The Bard in GreenA
      15·
      2 years ago

      I do remember some posts on r/sex back in the day that were absolutely kids (teens) and you could tell by how

      • Freaked out they were about totally normal stuff.
      • Excited they were about how great sex is.

      I remember there was a funny day when there were two top upvoted posts on r/sex (probably in like 2017) where one was like

      • It turns me on when my boyfriend masturbates to me, am I normal?

      And the other one was like

      • I (female bodied, they/them / nb) am a furry and my wife and I like to pretend that I’m a wolf and I’m hunting and eating her. What can we make that will look and feel like real organs I can “rip” out of her stomach and eat, and what could we use for fake blood that would be the easiest to clean up?

      People kept linking the second one in the first one and reassuring this poor girl that she’s totally normal.

      • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        2 years ago

        I (female bodied, they/them / nb) am a furry and my wife and I like to pretend that I’m a wolf and I’m hunting and eating her. What can we make that will look and feel like real organs I can “rip” out of her stomach and eat, and what could we use for fake blood that would be the easiest to clean up?

        Absolutely based, all the rest of us plebs just need to learn about the depth and power of their kinkiness. Cheers to their banquet.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    9422·
    2 years ago

    When they’re adamant that voting third party in the United States will be useful in some capacity, I assume they’re 13

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldΕλληνικά
      154·
      2 years ago

      I don’t assume they are 13, but they at least aren’t old enough to remember what happened in 2016.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        76·
        2 years ago

        Or any other election year, for that matter. I don’t think a third party candidate has gotten a significant voter block in 100 years.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      101·
      2 years ago

      Conversely: when they say this is the most important election of “our lifetimes”, and the world will end if we lose.

      (Doesn’t mean they’re wrong)

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
      101·
      2 years ago

      I know a full grown adult that does that in every election. Local elections, sure, I can understand, but he does that with all of them, Basically a card carrying communist that’s a useful idiot for right wing politicians.

    • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
      71·
      2 years ago

      You would need some real insurance that others were commuted to vote 3rd party no matter what. Otherwise the real benifit is just getting to that 5% mark where third parties get some bennies like federal funding and automatic ballot access in some places. Which is minor vs say stopping a campaign of vengeance from a candidate who has acted feloniously already and has abused his position to black bag political opponents before.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      84·
      2 years ago

      Almost anyone with an irrational political stance betrays their youth.

      Political ideology has always captivated the passions of youth, but isn’t successfully implemented or even internalized except by people with age and experience and emotional regulation.

      • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        I agree with you. Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind? Obviously ignoring the current regressive times of the last eight+ years there.

        To contribute an answer to the original question I offer this post as evidence of age- thinking about how much has changed during my life may have come through above.

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 years ago

          Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind?

          I am getting up there in years and seeing this play out over and over.

          I think every generation wants to be more progressive than the last, but we tend to carry baggage of fear and insecurity through the generations. Or more specifically, older people tend to gain the political and monetary capital needed to affect policy and shape our societal outlook and attitude. They will always be more conservative than the younger generation who will want more freedoms and personal rights, inherently, and as the ruling class will clash with newer sensibilities, over and over.

          What we’re asking here, is the conservatism reflected in our elders and leadership now broadly more harmful or helpful? Are we out of the touch or is it the kids who are wrong?

          I think it’s a mix but mostly it’s not our real problem. Our real problem is that no matter what our age, we have greatly misunderstood how our own existence works. Most people have been taught that they have brains designed to exercise logic and reason and that brains are the best thing ever if you use them and make them smart.

          No, our brains are not logical tools. We are not a rational species. There was no “age of enlightenment.” It’s all a hoax. Our brains are tools designed to write a story to explain how you feel. And that’s it. It doesn’t even have to make sense. When we all learn how our brains actually work we will collectively make better decisions, have more compassion for each other, and likely sink into even deeper despair as we all start to realize we have no free will.

    • 11111one11111@lemmy.world
      52·
      2 years ago

      Why not vote 3rd party in states that only go one direction? Take NY for instance. What the fuck harm comes from voting 3rd party assholes for president? One time the state elected a republican candidate and it was (still is I think) the largest landslide in history. I’m 36 and have always hated the 2 party system. It’s been easier and easier as I got older too with increasing political polarity.

    • Zangoose@lemmy.world
      591·
      2 years ago

      Hate to break it to you but people born in 2006 are turning 18 this year (and are technically considered “adults”).

      • jaaake@lemmy.world
        60·
        2 years ago

        Having just turned 43, I can tell you that I don’t think I became an adult until my early/mid 30s.

        • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          21·
          2 years ago

          This is a truth that everyone under 30 denies until the day they turn 30. It’s like a magic spell is suddenly broken, and you realize you’re alone in an aging meat husk that now knows the glory of back pain.

          I know a young person will read this and think this won’t happen to them. To that person: I am you from the future. Remember us as we were.

          • EllE@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 years ago

            I think it’s kinda like the old dating age formula; you can date people (your age) / 2 + 7 years old, and you feel like that’s the age of an adult.

            When I was 15 I felt like ann adult, but people younger than me were teens. When I was 25 I felt like an adult but people under the age of like 20 were just kids. Now I feel like people in their early/mid-20s are just about adults. I’m sure when I’m 50 I’ll think back to myself now and consider myself barely an adult.

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 years ago

          I’m 40 and it seems like I can continually look back at myself from five years ago and think damn I was an idiot back then. I wonder how I will feel in five years…

    • Obinice@lemmy.world
      132·
      2 years ago

      That assumes you live in one of a small number of countries for which politics significantly shifted after one of those countries was attacked.

      And also that you’re at least old enough to have had a reasonable mature understanding of the political landscape before 2001, so as to appreciate how things changed. Let’s assume that’d make you at least 20.

      …So, we have to be at least 43 years old, and American, or you’ll assume we’re children?

    • someguy3@lemmy.world
      6·
      2 years ago

      To actually understand you’d have to have been following politics pre 9/11, which would make you probably 16 at the time. That means 39 right now. That’s a lot of adults you’re ruling out.

      If you want to say understand society pre and post 9/11, then you’re probably talking 12 at the time, so 35 right now. Still a lot of adults you’re ruling out.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
        231·
        2 years ago

        I don’t care for politics.

        Your sphere of control should match your sphere of concern; and neither of those things are what you think they are.

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
          18·
          2 years ago

          You think politics are in my control in any way, shape, or form? They’ve gerrymandered my vote to irrelevance.

          I still vote, I look at the platforms and vote for whomever I feel serves my interests the most, not that the party’s platform means jack or shit. They’re all just pandering to whatever they know you want to hear, and once they get into power, they do whatever the hell they want.

          My district leans a particular way, and whether I vote with them, or against them, the same party is elected to govern. I’d say my vote is pretty useless in that context.

          I was too young to vote, pre-9/11, and had even less interest in politics than I do now. I’ve vaguely followed along since I got registered to vote when I got old enough to do so, but it’s not like learning about what happened before I was registered to vote will help me in any way. I make the best choice based on the information that is available, and in the end, it doesn’t even matter.

          • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 years ago

            Could anyone persuade you to vote on what’s better for most people instead of what’s better for yourself? Maybe it’s the same policies maybe not.

            • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
              2·
              2 years ago

              I usually want whatever is best for the majority. I’m done college, and I paid my student loans, I’ll vote for student loan forgiveness and a restructuring of that system so others don’t have to go through what I did.

              I’m pretty healthy and rarely need hospitals but universal healthcare is something that everyone should have.

              I would also vote for UBI, though I would get no benefit from it, as I’ve been employed pretty much non-stop since I left college.

              I would also vote to raise the minimum wage, though my salary is significantly amount the minimums.

              My principles are in line with what most people would consider to be the greater good for all people. I believe in true equality, and I don’t feel like that’s what we have, some people just aren’t given the same basic rights, especially in America with roe v. Wade being overturned. Bodily autonomy and the right to love, and marry whomever you want. I don’t believe in lowering the bar to give the illusion of things being “fair”, eg, allowing people who are otherwise mentally or physically incapable of doing a job, to do the job just because they’re a particular race, gender, or something else (making it more about who they are than whether they’re the best fit for a job).

              I don’t think I need any convincing to vote for what’s good for someone else.

              • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 years ago

                Agreed, we are like minded in many ways. Thanks for the kind and long response. I believe your earlier comments were being taken by myself and others as fuck everyone I’ll get/I’ve got mine. Sorry I don’t mince words at the moment.

                • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  No apology needed. No offense taken.

                  I know that text replies, especially terse ones can be interpreted in many ways. Often I tend to be rather verbose to get my point across accurately. Some then complain about the verbosity of my replies.

                  It’s a struggle to find the right amount of terse while being verbose enough to not be misunderstood.

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
          14·
          2 years ago

          Why? How does knowing how politics worked before I could vote, help me as a voter today?

          I understand enough about politics to cast my vote and beyond the act of voting, I generally don’t follow politics. I vote based on party platforms (what they intend to do) and the likelihood of those things happening. Eg, if a party was to say that they’ll make everyone rich, I would consider that statement to be delusional, unrealistic and not something that could be fulfilled even if that party was voted in. This is an extreme example, but I think you get my meaning.

          Beyond doing my due diligence in figuring out who I want to vote for, and then voting for that party… What else do I realistically need?

          My district always elects the same party anyways, whether I vote for them or not. I’ve landed in a gerrymandered location and that party basically always wins, but I still vote regardless.

          IMO, I shouldn’t need to take a political history course to be considered to be a responsible voter.

  • NoiseColor@startrek.website
    60·
    2 years ago

    I don’t really know, but when they have weird illogical views that they defend with trump like arguments, I think they are kids. They might not be 10.

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 years ago

          That was really interesting. I had a friend who’s brother killed himself when he was a young teen. If things didn’t go his way or he was overly irritated, especially when he was drunk, he reacted by destroying things like a pubescent boy might. He also came from a wealthy family so I always thought that contributed as well, like not caring if he breaks something just buy a new one. But he didn’t just break his own things. I had to end the friendship when he drunkenly threatened a woman who lived in my building with a gun. I hope he’s ok.

          • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 years ago

            Sorry to hear about your friend. While I’m no doctor, that seems to fit the bill to me. I’ve known people that had other trauma when young, and yeah, maintaining healthy relationships seems to be the hardest thing for them. Your story reminded me of a lot.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    602·
    2 years ago

    I’m actually gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume this is actually a grown idiot lol

    • drathvedro@lemm.ee
      19·
      2 years ago

      This ‘compress’ everything is such a waste of CPU and energy. Plus “oops, all your files are gone, tee hee”. GZ everywhere is fucking stupid. More complexity for zero benefit.

      - CTO at my previous company

      • twei@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        2 years ago

        To be fair: there are many things where compression is a waste of CPU time, like fonts and about 90% of non-text media as they’re already compressed

        • frezik@midwest.social
          2·
          2 years ago

          What, you don’t love downloading a zip file that contains an msi (which is perfectly capable of internally compressing much of its internal data)?

    • kia@lemmy.caEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      Found the thread and wow, this person goes on to desperately defend this dumb stance…

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedEnglish
      32·
      2 years ago

      it depends on the application, if you’re just serving a static site, or talking on a public chatforum, yeah encryption is pointless.

      If you’re talking an SSH tunnel? Yeah no this is stupid.

      • frezik@midwest.social
        4·
        2 years ago

        Encryption everywhere isn’t about the individual content. By making it ubiquitous, it’s harder for bad actors to separate the encrypted data they want from the one’s they don’t. If only special content is encrypted, then just the fact that it’s encrypted is a flag for them. It also makes it much harder to ban. It’s pretty much impossible to ban the algorithms in TLS at this point. Too much depends on it.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comBannedEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          it’s a good thing the entirety of https traffic has encrypted headers than…

          Regardless, if it’s properly encrypted it doesn’t matter if they have it, and are able to confirm who it’s from, unless we’re talking about a governmental agency or an org with access to one of those mythical quantum computers. In which case it’s probably a significant portion of future security.

          • frezik@midwest.social
            1·
            2 years ago

            TLS already has algorithms hardened against QC. The effects of QC against encryption are greatly exaggerated, anyway. The number of qubits that would be needed to break encryption may be too large to ever be feasible.

            Get IPv6 going and stuff like SNI becomes unnecessary.

    • trafficnab@lemmy.ca
      56·
      2 years ago

      I still stand by full disk encryption accomplishing almost nothing for the average user but separating them from their own files

      If you don’t have data on your PC that someone might be willing to kill you for, you probably don’t need it, and Microsoft enabling it by default for Win11 installs is crazy

      • EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 years ago

        I mean, I think it’s a good idea to enable it on a laptop.

        I mean if someone steals your laptop they can access all your files without it, and even though 90% of files may be useless there’s always chances to find passwords (often reused, even if encrypted can be decrypted if they aren’t strong), bank details, documents, etc oh and cookies for your browser sessions etc etc. If I were a laptop thief (which I’m not) I’d probably look for those too before formatting everything, that could be extra money.

        That’s why I encrypt my laptop’s drive. That way even if it’s stolen the only thing I have to really worry about is not having a laptop anymore.

        • trafficnab@lemmy.ca
          1·
          2 years ago

          Yeah but I don’t think the average smash and grab thief is going to be smart enough to recognize the potential value of the data on the laptop, they’re just going to pawn the thing off as quickly as possible

          Anyone smart enough to want the data probably doesn’t need to smash a window, they’ll just access the data remotely when the computer is on and the drive is unencrypted

          So even then, it only protects you from the very narrow overlap of thieves who are dumb enough to need to break into cars for a living, but smart enough to harvest data off of stolen laptops

  • modifier@lemmy.ca
    54·
    2 years ago

    I don’t know about you all, but I have been posting as an adult human male for a numbers of years now despite being a 4 year old Alaskan Malamute. No one seems to notice or care.