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      we have the Ferangi Commerce Authority. And only barely.

      Obligatory Quark rant

      I feel like I’m gonna be getting a lot of mileage out of that link in the near future; this is already the second time in a few days I’ve had cause to post it.

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        One of the best parts of Deep Space Nine is taking the problematic Ferangi and using them to roast he shit out of Humanity for seven seasons.

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    Loads of people go on about how “awe shucks, we’re in the Mad Max future, instead of the Star Trek future” completely unaware that Star Trek’s utopia was built on top of the ruins of a Mad Max distopia that came first.

    In canon, Star Trek’s utopia only happened after Earth had a nuclear WWIII followed by the Eugenics War (and several related genocides) before first contact with the Vulcans. In fact, without those wars, we might not have gotten the tech for warp drive. In further lore, after the wars of the 21st century and before first contact, there was a concerted “never again” kind of movement globally eventually resulting in the United Earth government being founded. It then took more than a century of technological and societal progress to get to the matter replicator driven post-scarcity economy.

    So we could be on track for Star Trek future… but none of us will be alive to see it.

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      Star Trek canon is that humans suddenly acted completely differently than they had throughout their entire history. I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

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      The mirror Star Trek happened when Zephram Cochrane shot and killed the Vulcans arriving to greet them instead of shaking their hand. The nearby people stormed the ship and raided the weapons, using them to conquer the rest of Earth.

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      Pfft, that would require an actual cool thought to cross their corrupted brains lmao

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        We didn’t have eugenics wars in the 90’s either, we may have been shunted into a JJ Abrams style universe.

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          “genetic engineering = eugenics” is the worst take in Star Trek, though. Bashir’s parents did nothing wrong.

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            Also the implication that Bashir himself would be punished for the way he was born is straight up punishing someone for not upholding racial purity.

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              Its a “tolerance of intolerance” situation.

              Bashir himself did nothing wrong, but if you let genetic engineering go, you end up with brutal ubermensch and civil war. They know this first hand, as it happened to them.

              They have to level action against him and his family, to prevent the mass death that their actions lead to.

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                That’s why I think it’s a shitty Star Trek take, not a shitty in-universe Federation take. Correcting disabilities at birth is not a slippery slope to ubermensch. Superior ability doesn’t create unchecked ambition. “From each according to their ability” implies we’re not all equal in ability.

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    Nah, remember that in star trek we had to go through WWIII before shit got better