• OptionalOP
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      Yeah. But they’re not. Usually.

      Interestingly that’s more a function of media more than politics. Political movement “in a vacuum” doesn’t require popularity. But since we have put political power in the hands of everyone vs a king or whatever, the media is the ocean in which politics “swims”.

  • @xantoxis@lemmy.world
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    All of these things definitely were in the news, of course. They just don’t STAY in the news, and the public memory hole works fast.

    • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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      Because they’re fucking bread crumbs. What you want us to hold a parade over credit card fees while housing, education, healthcare and food continue to become more expensive and Biden’s cabinet works to suppress wages? Neato.

      • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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        They’re steps in the right direction, but in general I agree with the sentiment. We need much more drastic changes.

      • @greenskye@lemm.ee
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        Ya, basically Biden is only able to solve minor first world problems instead of any sort of meaningful attempt on any of the several huge issues.

        This isn’t all his fault, he’s not a king and can’t do whatever he wants, but I also don’t often find my own managers all that happy with me when all I can say I’ve accomplished is minor, non-critical tasks and haven’t even started on the major work they want accomplished. Making a report look nicer and fixing the break room coffee machine isn’t going to cover for failing to launch our latest product. Americans are right to be disappointed in their government and we should be disappointed in our media for failing to stick to larger issues.

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          I’m more disappointed in the people who keep voting conservative blockers into the senate and house than I am that biden won’t circumvent them.

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            I’m disappointed in them and fucking livid at shitbags like Sinema who run on a platform and gleefully give the middle finger to everyone while they do the exact opposite once in office.

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              This isn’t an accident. The same thing happened during Obama’s presidency.

              People don’t want to face facts: The Democrat party is filled to the brim with pro-corporate trash.

        • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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          He could have stayed out of the rail strike, he could have not gone around congress to ship weapons to Israel and he could have told Yellen not to make suppression of worker wages her goal.

          You’re trying to deflect blame away from him as if we’re all expecting him to do things he can’t. Biden isn’t acting in our interests and it should come as no surprise that means we’re not interested in voting for him again.

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            Do you think not voting will make the world better? Biden isn’t perfect and I’ll continue to pursue progressive candidates in primaries, but I don’t see what anyone gains by not voting or voting for someone who’s definitely going to do a lot more that I disagree with. I didn’t disagree that America has a right to be angry with him, regardless of any excuses, but you still live in reality and have to deal with the situation you have, not the one you want.

          • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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            Tell us you don’t know anything about how the rail strike got resolved and what the outcomes were…

        • @Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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          Especially since Biden was brought into that position to do precisely that. Do some pet projects but not challenge the underlying root issues of inequality and peoples economic situation. Because that would be against the interests of the billionaire “donors” of the Dems and Reps.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

              Yes. They are pet projects compared to what other presidents have achieved and what is needed to change the country to an economically, socially and ecologically sustainable new status quo. Biden is preventing that change together with his DNC buddies who want to make sure the inequality in the US stays, the interests of the super rich are kept and the white upper class remains in power.

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                  Why do you limit yourself and your political demands to the little box given to you instead of demanding to see the horizon?

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      And Trump will take credit for it all and his idiot believers will eat it up.

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    But they did make headlines, that’s how we know about these. The FTC and FCC doing their job more is good and makes headlines.

    It’s good, don’t get me wrong. But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.

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      Not really. The average person knows more about trump’s bowel movements than these accomplishments. The average undecided voter is lazy and needs information spoon-fed to them. That’s why it matters what is reported in the media.

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        Sure, I agree that it should be brought up more, and that Trump gets endless free airtime even from liberal news outlets. But it’s just wild to go “No one remembers or talks about these, the media ignores it!” while we’re talking about it and the good it has done.

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          “We” are not the corporate media, but to your point they did dutifully report these stories, perfunctorily, on page 23 or behind the weather, sports, movie recommendations and lots of ads.

          The reporting was not commensurate with the benefits of the policies. As such, the people who most need to know about them likely won’t, but “we” do.

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      But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.

      Given that the republiQans retook the house in 2022, what did Biden run on that he hasn’t delivered?

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        • Freeing Mexican citizens locked in cages at the border, but has in fact increased the numbers according to the ACLU, and now limiting the numbers of who can come in like fascist Trump wanted
        • The COVID pandemic is still ongoing, we’re just ignoring it while I’ve had friends die from it after it was “over” according to the CDC. Also removing the 14 day expected leave for it to improve companies fucking over sick and healthy workers alike the economy
        • Roe v Wade being reinstated, for the party that “cares about women’s rights”.
        • Minimum Wage increases (Yes Congress is in charge of the purse, but can he say “please fucking do it so everyone has better income?”)
        • Ran on trying to stop cops from shooting innocent civilians, but in his first State of the Union said “We don’t need to defund the police, we need to fund the police!” to bipartisan roaring applause. I know he has a fucking cop as a VP, but god damn.
        • And he’s not doing anything to stop Project 2025 from getting into place if Trump wins.
        • Could maybe consider giving new arms to Ukraine and stop funding explicit genocide in Palestine.
        • Didn’t help the unions during the rail strikes give into the demands for better worker safety and benefits, blocking it like how Reagan blocked the FAA from striking for safety and benefits
        • Still allows Trump-era expansions of spying agencies, that was made public under “constitutional lawyer and defender” Obama, and instated under Dubya.

        But we don’t have the President saying stupid shit on Twitter every day, so I guess that means we’re back to a sane normal, or whatever white cishet liberals need to say to sleep well at night. Ignore the bloodshed of BIPOC and queers, women and their doctors fleeing red states over being arrested for bodily autonomy, and that white nationalists just goosestep freely because its not respectable to tell fascists to fuck off and die, it doesn’t impact you, so it’s all sane politics and electable!

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        He means they aren’t brokered talking points. No one is pushing this, because there’s not a huge amount of money, bots, every news outlet that has a vested financial interest in getting Biden a second term.

        Trump was found guilty, took a huge hit in polls, then turned around and had the biggest funding boost in US history.

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    Expanding internet access in rural areas with the Build Back Better plan. That alone was a massive investment into our infrastructure.

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      Lol what about like the ten times they’ve done that before

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        I have family in rural NC , two different areas. Both have lived in those areas for 15 yrs. When AT&T pulled out due to not enough customers, they lost internet. The only option they had was 10 down, 1 up (advertised), for $65 a month.

        Last year they got word AT&T, and several smaller name companies were moving out there. Now they get 300 down, 10 up for $50.

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        There’s some dipshits that call Democrats Blue maga in a desperate last ditch effort to bring legitimacy to the notion that “both sides are the same”. Either because they want Trump to win or because they believe they’re an anime protagonist and they can will a third option into being. The /s means I’m sarcastically supporting that notion.

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          No we call you that because you spend all your energy fighting us instead of working to rid the Democrat party of pro-corporate trash.

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            I spend more energy jerking off than talking to you. If you mean the incendiary way I talk down to people like you, that’s because I have fire on speed dial and “fuck off” just doesn’t cut it these days.

            PS -> I’m not a democrat. inb4: I’m not a Trump supporter either.

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              I spend more energy jerking off than talking to you. If you mean the incendiary way I talk down to people like you, that’s because I have fire on speed dial and “fuck off” just doesn’t cut it these days.

              Great. Redirect that energy towards the people who keep voting for pro-corporate trash in the primaries.

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            instead of working to rid the Democrat party of pro-corporate trash.

            So how is that done exactly? By hiring hitmen?

            • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              I think a great first step would be to stop spending all your energy lecturing leftists and go after the people who vote for this procorporate trash in the primaries. At the very least it would convince me you’re actually interested in solving the problem and not just trying to get people to kick the can for your benefit.

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                First, what exactly do you mean by “going after”? Again, do I have to break their legs or what?

                And most importantly second, where are those people? Because I’ve seen exactly none on Lemmy or Reddit. I would like to argue with someone who actually thinks Biden deserved the candidacy over others like Bernie, but they’re definitely not here and I wouldn’t even know where to “look” for them. I do what I can on the social I use.

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                  First, what exactly do you mean by “going after”? Again, do I have to break their legs or what?

                  Lol I love how when I propose this people’s reading comprehension just falls off a cliff. Like they’re going ham on lecturing leftists and young people for their voting habits but super confused about what they could do with moderate voters.

                  But sure I’ll play along and pretend “go after” wasn’t clear in this context.

                  Here’s an example: Every time you have the urge to tell a leftist what to do on lemmy immediately log out. Go log into facebook. (Sign up if you don’t have an account). Find some Boomer who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries and tell them that was a stupid decision.

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    Negotiating drug prices? How about making price gouging ILLEGAL? How about a world market price for drugs instead of a monopoly market in America?

    I can go through the entire list like this. Trying to cheer for these crumbs is contortion at it’s most contorting.

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      Comparably he’s doing more stuff than obama with less legislative backing. I think, in general, US presidents are going to be shit piles no matter what until our electoral system undergoes some changes (probably first at the state constitution level)

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      I mean, I’m with you that would be great, but the President isn’t a dictator. I don’t know why this keeps coming up, I don’t want one person having the power to make huge sweeping decisions because they feel like it.

      Holding the president to an impossible standard is only going to hurt getting where we’re trying to go here.

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    Biden has made significant progress for the average person during his presidency, which is disheartening given the potential for even greater impact. It seems he knows that simply meeting basic expectations will be enough to outdo previous leaders.

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      But don’t you think getting the 10 commandments in our classrooms will make things soo much better? 🙃

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        He can’t do that.

        People keep saying the things Biden have been doing are weak, half measures, but they have no idea what he’s actually capable of doing without Congress.

        He literally tried to wipe away a significant amount of student debt. He tried to fulfill that promise without Congress. The Supreme Court stopped it.

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          Funny how often Democrats try to do things that will definitely fail but then with things they actually can change there’s always some bullshit excuse.

          We don’t have medicare for all or something similar because Democrats refused to make it happen during Obama’s term. That combined with the kid gloves they took to the financial sector during the financial crisis disillusioned a lot of people. Most Democrat politicians are corrupt pro-corporate trash.

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            Because there wasn’t support for it. Sure it has pretty broad public support. But our elected officials don’t. It’s not a bullshit excuse. It sucks but it’s true. And acting like a child certainly won’t fix it.

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              Because there wasn’t support for it. Sure it has pretty broad public support. But our elected officials don’t. It’s not a bullshit excuse.

              Those elected officials were Democrats. You’re just proving my point. When the power is out of their hands you’re like “Omg they want to and if you just vote harder they’ll totally do it!” but then when the power is in their hands you just shrug and say “They didn’t support it.”

              Yes, I know they don’t support it. That’s why I’m not voting for them.

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                And that’s why they aren’t voting for it. No one is proving your point. And no it’s not just Democrats. Whatever conspiracy pit you frequent, you need to get out.

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                  Are you a bot? It seems like you just lost the entire context of the conversation. Let me remind you.

                  Me:

                  We don’t have medicare for all or something similar because Democrats refused to make it happen during Obama’s term.

                  You:

                  Because there wasn’t support for it.

                  Me:

                  Yes, I know they don’t support it. That’s why I’m not voting for them.

                  You:

                  And no it’s not just Democrats.

                  Are you following along now Siri?

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          Honestly I think the entirety of the last 10 years of complete government failure should be tied back to the almost totally non-functional legislature.

          The president can’t pass laws. The supreme court would matter far less, if we weren’t trying to creatively reinterpret ancient laws and applying them to technology and culture that didn’t even exist at the time they were written. Instead of updating and clarifying any of those laws, the supreme court has been allowed to effectively make policy by continually shifting interpretations of a static and obsolete set of laws that Congress should have updated 20 years ago. Several times courts have effectively changed policy by saying ‘the law doesn’t mean that, go write an actual law for that, don’t just make shit up’ and then Congress just doesn’t react at all.

          If you look back at history, constitutional amendments were relatively regular up until recently. Can anyone imagine our current government passing an amendment for anything at all? Even the most minor tweak would be impossible in this Congress. Several of our major ‘wins’ were mere court cases and like we found out with abortion, what the court gives, the court can take away. Anything about our current day to day life that exists solely based on a court ruling we should be fighting to codify into law, but we all seem to recognize how futile that task is.

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        We need more Democrats in Congress for that. A third of the Senate and all of the House are up for election in November. Attendance at the polls is crucial for down-ballot candidates just the same as presidential.

        Vote in November, or be ready to accept what a Republican President, Congress, and SCOTUS decide for you.

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          We need more Democrats in Congress for that. A third of the Senate and all of the House are up for election in November. Attendance at the polls is crucial for down-ballot candidates just the same as presidential.

          What guarantees can you give us they won’t “fumble” the ball like they did during Obama’s presidency? If they do will you finally acknowledge the fucking problem?

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            There’s none, other than the guarantee that Republicans will take the ball as far as they can in the opposite direction if we don’t vote. When was the last time a team won a game by walking off the field?

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              There’s none

              Thanks for admitting that Democrat politicians are corrupt pro-corporate trash. Come up with a winning strategy and I’ll come back to the field.

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              Man! I love when people reduce the nuanced complexities of modern politics to a team sport. That’s just such a great way to reframe any issue to an us or them context.

              And, when you get right down to it, that’s really what this world needs: more acceptance and enforcement of norms that pit half of us against the other half.

              Ah! Progress!

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                I agree that polarization is a real problem. The only reason I continued to use the analogy from the previous commenter was to maintain consistency in conversation.

                However, there are only two parties that are capable of winning this election. Believing otherwise is distraction, not progress.

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                  You are sadly correct. My comment was not meant, in particular, to call you or your habits out, but a cynical snipe at all of us. Apologies if it came across negative, cos that’s also not gonna help any 🤝

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          The thing that stinks is

          A) the electoral college makes it so only 4 or 5 states really matter

          B) there’s an amnesia about trump from the never trump republicans. My dad is conservative but didn’t vote trump. He thought he was an asshole. Now my dad talks about how Biden is crooked, and the only reason people hate trump is because, and his words, “orange man bad”.

          C) puritanical leftists have valid reasons to not like Biden, but they are willing to blow up the system as they always have. I say puritanical because I know there are pragmatic leftists who exercise restraint in their actions.

          In 2020, the suburban vote was a critical win for Biden. I’m hoping for the best, but I’m starting to sit with the fact that Trump has a decent, if not likely, chance of winning in 2020.

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            The Electoral College has nothing to do with congressional elections.

            The rest of your points can be addressed by providing information to those who are misinformed or disenfranchised. Abstaining may not be a vote for Trump, but it’s a refusal to stand in his way.

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                You vote for your Senators and House Representatives directly. The Electoral College has nothing to do with that.

                Each state has two Senate seats, voted on statewide. Districting does not affect that vote.

                Districting issues may make some votes less likely to make a difference in the House vote in specific districts in Republican states. That’s all the more reason to get as many Democrats to vote as possible.

                The average Democratic voting representation for congressional elections is less than 50%. We constantly complain about the repercussions of our own inaction.

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      which is disheartening given the potential for even greater impact

      What potential? Without Congress or the Supreme Court, what potential things could Biden be doing that would have “greater” impact that he isn’t doing?

      Something that doesn’t require a new law, and won’t be shot down by a hostile conservative court?

      Please give me examples.

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        They can’t give you any examples and neither can the dorkuses downvoting you. Biden has accomplished a lot with the maggats playing the “I don’t wanna” game whenever a dem is in office. He not only had to dig us out of the hole the orange menace left us in, he also has to cure cancer, be the first human to step on Mars, etc and even then people will find something to bitch about.

        With any luck (and a lot of hard work) we will have Biden for a second term and then a dem to replace him in 2028 so at least 12 years of the adults running things. Then maybe we can get some shit done and stop trying to tread water at best.

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          and then a dem to replace him in 2028

          HRC will win the primaries in 2028 and we’ll be having the same argument we’re having now. Pro-corporate trash isn’t doing the trick.

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        Without Congress or the Supreme Court

        Pretty sure the potential lies in changing this.

        Vote. Not just for president, but for every office you’re able to. Because this shit isn’t just “Trump did it!” or “Biden didn’t do enough!” It’s also the legislators, and a lot of the judiciary they approved (and probably pushed during the Trump administration). Not to mention all the state and local reps that initiate most of the policies that affect people.

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          It basically all starts with Congress. We could fix so much shit if we ever managed to get a real majority (not 48 Dems and two ‘not technically Republicans’)

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            We could fix so much shit if we ever managed to get a real majority

            We would just change it to “we could fix so much shit if we ever managed to get a supermajority.”

            And then redefine “supermajority” to mean 67.

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        Maybe we could start by not aiding a genocide? Just spitballing here…

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            You mean the bombs Biden shipped to Israel? Did the sharpie make them extra deadly or something?

            Lol bud all Biden’s “resistance” to Bibi is going to disappear the moment the election results come in. And you’ll still defend Biden anyway.

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        He could get caught trying.

        He could frame a big-picture vision of what he and Democrats value, expressed in terms that speak to Americans emotionally. He could push for policies that Republicans and the Supreme Kangaroo Court will shoot down, and then go to the American people and blame them for taking away good things that everybody wants.

        The student-loan debt relief effort had about 1 1/2 of those things. The rest of the time he tends to talk about particular bills and policies. Republicans can stop those, and those things become dead letters, but dreams and hopes are evergreen.

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          Shame on you for saying that! I’m sure you’ll be downvoted.

          He’s boring and uninspirational and isn’t accomplishing anything of note… but you should not question any of that!

          Just rah-rah until defeated, and repeat.

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          It takes immense amounts of time and effort to bring new items like this forwards, so each item you choose to do means time and money that can’t be used bringing a different policy forwards.

          Based on that why should Biden waste his time developing and bringing forward policies that the Republicans are obviously going to immediately shoot down, it just prevents him from being able to work on things that might actually get passed

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            No, it really doesn’t. I can think them up by the dozens. If they’re not going to pass, there’s no reason to lay all the groundwork. But they’re still good for rhetorical purposes.

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                • Build a giant net on the border with Canada to keep geese out.
                • Make Friday part of the weekend.
                • Give every new baby a chocolate eclair.
                • Issue bulletproof vests to all citizens to help survive mass shootings.
                • No more speed limits in Interstate highways. (Okay, absurd ones are harder to think of than real issues that people care about.)
                • Cheaper health care.
                • Cheaper housing.
                • Cheaper groceries.
                • Cheaper fuel.
                • Codify reproductive freedom in law.
                • Hold the media accountable to the truth.
                • Ban insider trading in Congress.
                • Ensure that people have secure jobs, with dignity.

                Details, schmetails. The post is a complaint by Robert Reich that voters aren’t paying attention to details. And ITT, plenty of Lemmings pointing out that Biden can’t pass very many policy proposals, anyway. The idea is to sell the perception that Democrats understand and care about issues facing Americans.

                The big picture comes first to get Democrats elected, then get down to the details.

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              Sure you can think up the tag line line liner title for each item but what about all the details? How will they work the restrictions the requirements the funding. How much of that requires large amounts of work just to be shutdown and tossed by the Republicans

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                This is why Democrats struggle so badly, so I’ll say it straight up: It’s about sales. Reich is complaining that the public doesn’t lose its shit over arcane policy details. Yeah, sit down for this truth bomb (/s): That’s human nature. It’s not fair. It’s not right. It’s not good. It’s just the way it is. Complaining about it won’t help, or change the content of headlines.

                So somebody asks for examples of what can Biden do when he’s blocked by Congress? I say: Sell, sell, sell. Get in the PR game. Put on a show that the people in the cheap seats can enjoy. (That is a metaphor for a rhetorical spectacle that even politically unengaged citizens will hear about.) Show everybody that the problem is in Congress.

                What do the details matter? The headline is all that people will hear, and Republicans will block it, anyway. He needs to sell the perception that Democrats are trying. The details can come later, after they get the votes.

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      Significant progress is disheartening. Ok.

      Tough room.

  • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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    Meanwhile: “Good isn’t perfect, so fuck that and fuck you.”

    Too many people are all too ready to say that improvement isn’t enough, it has to be a perfect and complete solution or else what was the point.

    • OptionalOP
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      Which says they’re either not clear on how this whole “government” thing operates (which, tbf most people aren’t) and/or too young to have had experiences with government much before, and/or deliberately parroting a talking point designed to depress turnout for one of a few reasons.

      It’s that last one that seems most in evidence unfortunately. And mostly from people who don’t seem to remember 2016 that well.

  • @Yokozuna@lemmy.world
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    Wait… no medical debt goes to your credit report? Is this a thing now or is it something he’s working on?

    • OptionalOP
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      https://www.seattletimes.com/business/medical-debt-may-be-wiped-from-credit-reports-heres-why-thats-a-big-deal/

      The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has proposed a rule that would remove medical bills from credit reports, a ban that would prevent lenders from considering those debts when making decisions about whether to issue loans.

      The proposed rule change, announced Tuesday, would also increase privacy protections, help raise credit scores and prevent debt collectors from using the credit reporting system to coerce people to pay.

      . . . The proposed rule is open for public comment through Aug. 12, with the bureau working toward a final rule that would take effect next year.

      • @Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It didn’t even HAPPEN? What the hell homesweethomeMrL?

        I’m not going to factcheck your post. I have to dismiss it. You have clearly mislead us all

        If you’re TRULY on the side of facts and integrity, you should edit it and explain which items here aren’t actually done.

        Disgusting.

        • OptionalOP
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          It does mean something. It means there’s a plan, a bill, an Executive Order, political capital, political will, money/budget, and to see it through to universal acceptance so that it can’t be immediately rescinded by the next orange rapist administration and it only takes votes.

          In many cases it is already actually happening. These are all real examples, real things that are, in fact, happening. Things often “never go anywhere” because right-wing sewerholes and their friends around the political spectrum destroy those efforts at every available opportunity.

          RepubliQans and their supporters have, often, stated that their only goals are to prevent efforts like these from “going anywhere”. It’s a constant fight just to keep what we have now ffs because big money buys fascists cheaply and that’s what we’re fighting every session, every conference, every vote, every goddamned time.

          I get cynical, it’s absolutely understandable but, after decades of mikquetoast middle-of-the-road republiQan-lite Democratic initiatives (think “better jobs” and “middle-class tax breaks”) we’re finally - after the deeply humiliating disaster of the trump “presidency” - finally getting traction, buy-in, and votes for real positive progressive things.

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              Fair enough. Having lived through decades of continuous so-so blah Democratic actions, this latest movement is, possibly from just the failure of everything else they’ve tried instead of listening to the progressives, it’s well, pretty good. And it gives me some hope, should we survive the next existential threat, and the ones after that.

    • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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      Genocide will happen no matter how you vote. One option will lead to more genocide than the other. The rest of the options are not options under our current political system. If you do not vote for less genocide, including by not voting at all, you are voting for genocide.

      • @Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
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        If choosing the lesser evil still ends up at the most evil act someone can commit, was it ever really lesser evil? Or just slower, easier to ignore evil?

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          There is no “most evil act”. There is ALWAYS a way to make it worse. We need to take every possible step to make things better. And “better” doesn’t always mean “good”. Sometimes it just means "slightly slower slide to horrifically bad.

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        Biden is only choosing to commit genocide because he thinks he can win without my vote because of people like you enabling him, promising to vote blue no matter who. It is your fault that the uncommitted campaign and campus occupations and our voices have failed to push Biden on this issue. I recently listened to Hind Rajab’s call with The Palestinian Red Crescent Society again because of a new documentary on Al Jazeera (“The Night Won’t End”) and I want to fucking die. This is your fault. Own it.

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            There won’t be any people in Gaza left to kill by 2025 if Biden doesn’t stop the genocide.

            That’s your fault

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              I voted against him in the primaries and push for ranked choice voting. Unfortunately besides general unrest which will pressure biden but bolster Trump (who is NOW campaigning on crushing us for protesting the state of the war) we are acting too little too late. Maybe general unrest AFTER the election and if cooler heads don’t prevail might actually help.

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                1. There is no “after the election” for the people in Gaza. If this war is ongoing by January they’ll all be dead.

                2. Biden is already crushing us for protesting the war! Trump is late to the party.

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          He is not a legitimate candidate for president. It’s trump or Biden, no question asked.

          You can vote for one or the other, and your non (or third party) vote will have implicit favor, depending on your location, regardless of your intent.

          The primaries are over, pick trump or Biden. You get nothin else. Any ideological opinion on the value of voting or nonvoting ( moral or systemic) are moot, as the system is already constrained to 2 outcomes.

          Edit if you are not a Christian nationalist, any action you take that does not competitively keep trump out of office is against your interests. If your vote doesn’t matter because you are in a very blue place, you choose nonvoting out of privilege, and therefore put at risk neighbors at risk due to your lax conduct.

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            He is not a legitimate candidate for president.

            He already cast his vote. Answer my question: did he vote for genocide?

            The primaries are over, pick trump or Biden. You get nothin else. Any ideological opinion on the value of voting or nonvoting ( moral or systemic) are moot, as the system is already constrained to 2 outcomes.

            This is not an ideological choice and this is not frivolous moralism. This is strategic.

            If Biden understood that he will lose if he doesn’t end the genocide then he will do anything he has to do in order to stay in power because he’s a politician. It’s plainly obvious that we have already pushed him on this issue and if we stay the course we can force him to capitulate to our demands. The only reason Biden has not already ended his support for the genocide is because of you blue-no-matter-whos doing everything you can to convince his team that he can have his genocidal cake and eat it too.

            If we were actually fucking united on this issue he would fold like wet cardboard! If his rallies were filled with protesters instead of blue-no-matter-whos chanting “four more years!” he would understand. He’s not a demon. He’s a politician.

            You stopped the uncommitted movement from succeeding. You stopped the campus protests from succeeding. Your fault.

            By refusing to stand with us all you are doing is ensuring the genocide will continue, either under Biden or under Trump.

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              Meh, you (and I) are in a constrained system. Any other words on choice are fluff.

              You’re ascribing emotions to something that has none. You’re ascribing motive to someone you dont even know.

              Thus far edit ive only declared I don’t want trump president. You don’t know my choices beyond that.

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                I don’t want Trump president either, but if Biden does not stop he is going to lose.

                And so I have to use the only leverage I have to force Biden to stop supporting and carrying out genocide. If anti-Trump voters actually want to stop Trump then y’all need to understand that Trump is going to win because of the genocide. The people who don’t support genocide will not vote for Biden and the people who love genocide will vote for Trump, it’s lose lose.

                We have to force Biden to move on this issue or he’s doomed. It’s not about anyone’s feelings or emotions or what you truly want in your heart. Like I said, this is strategic. We are in a constrained system, this is the only strategy we have.

                Or is your plan to help Biden win just to scream at people who won’t vote for genocide?

                Because that’s doomed to fail. This is what you are voting for.

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              If we were actually fucking united on this issue he would fold like wet cardboard! If his rallies were filled with protesters instead of blue-no-matter-whos chanting “four more years!” he would understand. He’s not a demon. He’s a politician.

              This is just naive. Protesting against Biden’s Middle East policies is basically kids threatening to run away from home if their parents don’t buy them what they want.

              Of course Biden is never going to say this because, again, he’s a politician and has a public image to keep, but he could literally reply to said protestors “Or else? You gonna let Trump win and do worse? Yeah right, now shut up and vote for me”, and they would have absolutely nothing to answer.

              That’s how two-party systems work. You identify the worse outcome and vote for the other one. The only way to force the second-worst party to get better is to force the actual worst one to do it first.

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                Protesting against Biden’s Middle East policies is basically kids threatening to run away from home if their parents don’t buy them what they want.

                They’re grown adults choosing to be violently beaten by cops and vigilantes for their beliefs. Have some fucking respect.

                Of course Biden is never going to say this because, again, he’s a politician and has a public image to keep, but he could literally reply to said protestors “Or else? You gonna let Trump win and do worse? Yeah right, now shut up and vote for me”, and they would have absolutely nothing to answer.

                You’re contradicting yourself.

                He’s a politician and has a public image to keep because he can’t just say shit like that, because he’s not actually invincible. Your cynicism is understandable, you’ve convinced yourself there’s nothing you can do so the guilt doesn’t eat you alive, but the truth is that Biden is vulnerable to public image because he still wants to be reelected. If he really believed that he was going to lose because of his support for genocide then he would change his policies. He can be pushed. You refuse to try because you’re scared.

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                  Where am I contradicting myself exactly? He has a public image to keep, so he can’t openly say that. But he very much can act accordingly anyway, and that’s what he’s doing. Because he knows we have no viable alternative and anyone who seriously cares about minimizing casualties (so apparently not you) will not risk Trump getting reelected over some moral superiority that means nothing. He’s never going to lose over his support for genocide because you literally can’t vote against it. That’s how two-party systems work, period. The only reasons he can possibly lose over are differences between his agenda and his opponent’s, and genocide is unfortunately not one of those.

                  You’re the one trying to avoid guilt so that when a genocide-enabling candidate inevitably gets elected you can say to yourself “well at least I didn’t vote for them!”.

        • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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          Idiotic take. They all run on gasoline, so therefore clearly Saudi Arabia is to blame! But wait combustion also needs oxygen! It’s the tree’s fault! Don’t vote for the trees!

          • queermunist she/her
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            Israel literally couldn’t get this equipment anywhere else. We’re the only one that could give them the weapons they need.

            • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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              🤣 🤣 🤣 Riiiiiight we’re the only weapons manufacturer in the world!! Kid, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

              • queermunist she/her
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                Sure, they could get bombs and ammo elsewhere, but we’re the ones with the hardware and we’re also the only country that can supply Israel at the volume they need. No one else can make bombs as fast as the US and Israel’s own officials have openly said this. Also? Where the fuck else are they going to get $18 billion in F-15s? Why don’t you seem to know this stuff?

                That doesn’t even get into the way the US has been protecting Israel from Ansar Alla in the Red Sea and has pledged to protect them from Hezbollah if they invade Lebanon.

    • @HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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      You’re not voting for a president of a country, who has a relationship with another country that acts in its own interests and independence from the rest of the world.

      America is not the boss of the world, not the global authority, and no longer a beacon of progress and forward thinking. Israel is its own country, that brought something from another country for its own use. Another country’s decisions are their own - its not America’s fault any more than any other western country or arms producer… weapons aren’t manufactured and sold to be kind.

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        If the US stopped providing bombs they’d run out of bombs. Israeli officials have literally said this!

      • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        Another country’s decisions are their own

        Biden chose to sell them weapons that he knew would be used for genocide. That’s not Netanyahu’s choice.

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      Good for you! ⭐ Here’s your star, move along

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Moderates:

    Biden has no power, he’s just a president!

    Also moderates:

    Look at these good things that happened while Biden was in office, he did this!

    Biden:

    Fuck congress, I’ll go around them if it’s something I want like supporting a genocide or violating human rights at our borders

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      Are you serious?

      When Dem Congress goes his way, the common parlance is that the president, as leader of the Dems, gets the credit as “he did it”. If you want to be pedantic, no he didn’t directly do it. It’s just common parlance to give the president credit for the things he pushes for.

      He can ask the Dem House of Reps and Dem senators to do things, but that is not the same. If Congress says no, there’s very little he can do. The President does not have absolute control - to pass legislation takes Congress.

      Or things like banning Non-Compete clauses. That was a government agency, which gets appointments. Biden didn’t directly make that decision, it came from his (or other presidents) appointments.

      Then you have Executive Action (EA) which can be used for some things. You can’t use EA for all things. But EAs are not laws, they can be undone by the next president lickity split.

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      It’s gotta suck knowing you will still be voting for him in November.

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        Eh, I could live in one of the ~45 states where we already know what the result is…

        Everybody wants to act like we don’t know what votes mean these days. The sad truth is if you’re not in a battleground, it doesn’t matter who you vote for as president.

        Even 08 Obama that flipped a bunch of states, he already had it in the bag without them.

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          Good thing there’s more than just a presidential race, then. In fact, you can vote in non-presidential races every year (depending on local elections). At the very least every two.

          Yeah, battleground states are important in presidential races… but every state matters in congressional and state/local races.

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            Yep, there’s even elections in non presidential years!

            What’s unfortunate is with a Dem presidential candidate like Biden that people aren’t excited about, is it makes the down ballot races less likely to win in red states. 08 Obama was fucking huge in that respect, and I’m feeling old now that it’s apparently ancient history and no one remember.

            Hell, even just 2020 there was that effect because people wanted trump gone and Biden was still an unknown to most Dems nationwide.

            Lots of people believed last primary and the promised Biden made.

            It’s hard to get that goodwill back from voters.

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              It’s hard to get that goodwill back from voters.

              Agreed. Most of these people don’t understand lots of people still remember the ways Democrats fucked us over during Obama’s term.

              • No public option in the ACA
              • Kid gloves for the financial sector while people were losing their homes
              • Huge surveillance expansion

              And more.

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        You’re literally doing an impression of moderate democrat voters. You know that right? They’re the ones getting everything they want and they’re regularly used as the reason why Biden can’t do X, Y, or Z because he’d lose their votes.

        This is pure projection.

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      Yes, I also don’t understand how the US government works and have a keyboard!

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        Well that’s great then! When Trump and his gang of maniacs get in they won’t be able to accomplish anything because of how the US government works!

        That’s so encouraging! Here I thought being President meant you could effect change.

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    Yet when the people ask to not be owned by corporations, to have medical care, to not commit genocide, that all falls on deaf ears.

    When wall Street wants something done, Biden jumps to it.

    These are all sticking little plasters on the giant gaping wound and saying that you fixed it

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    Capping credit card fees? At what, 25%?

    35% APR, compounded DAILY?

    What fees are we talking about? They’re already cash-it-here high. It’s there something worse than that? Is the president making their interest remain at a reasonable amount above prime?

    Now THAT WOULD be a cap worth bragging about.

    PS: How about cash-it-here, and title-loan, and buy-here-pay-here, and instant-refund tax preparers, and accident attorneys, and bail bonds, and pawn shops, and rent-a-centers, and dollar tree/dollar general, and all the other predatory bad-financial-decision institutions we allow to thrive in poverty-stricken areas?

    We know what we’re doing, and we just let that shit happen. Fuck us, we deserve whatever comes.

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      Oh look at you, the brains of the operation here. Do you know what the Republicans would have capped it at? NOTHING AT ALL. Do you know why the Democrats can’t deliver the perfect policies you demand? Because they have to fight against the other side tooth and nail to get anything through at all. Do you think the Republicans would be forgiving student loan debt right now? News flash: hell no. Do you have complaints about the way loans are being forgiven, oh of that I have no doubt. Do you know why you have those complaints? Because the Republicans are always chipping away and fighting against at every good thing that happens.

      You’d be that spoiled brat whose single mother comes home after working her ass off all day, and throws a fit because she made potato soup again when you wanted hamburgers, wouldn’t you?

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        Thanks for the tongue lashing, but I’m reacting to something. This shitty list and big downvote party.

        This was posted like a kid’s picture stuck on the fridge, and we’re supposed to all admire it. Fuck that. Don’t take me to a Dodge and tell me it’s a Mercedes.

        He’s not Trump. That’s the line. Nobody is moved by this post. It’s desperate. It’s pleading. And ultimately, it actually works AGAINST Biden’s reelection. Because it’s like telling a girl who’s rejecting you all the reasons she should love you.