I give the side-eye to people who call it “A New Hope” or “Episode IV.”
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What I love is when he starts claiming that this or that change was part of his original vision. Like claiming he always wanted Greedo to shoot first, which is not reflected in any draft of the script before shooting or the shooting script or the memory of the actor who played Greedo.
Dude lies so often he doesn’t even think people will check.
Maybe he wanted to change it as soon as he saw it in editing but couldn’t afford reshoots.
Maybe, but that’s not what he said.
vision != script
Sorry… you’re saying he envisioned Greedo shooting first, never wrote it into any of the drafts and never filmed it? Why would that be?
Also that poster must not have seen the original edit. Before his ex wife got involved. It’s barely recognizeable. I sat down and watched the whole thing years ago, and it is practically a totally different story.
There’s a cut before Marcia Lucas got her hands on it? Do you know where I can find it?
Like I said, it’s been years but it’s likely on archive.org somewhere. From searching, it may be referred to as “Star Wars The Lost Cut.” It was rough like entire scenes only voiced with storyboard for the visuals, but some of the scenes that are there clearly weren’t in the released version.
Han doesn’t shoot first. Han is the only one who shoots. In the original Greedo never fires a shot.
And it works so much better that way. Lucas decided at some point to remove all moral ambiguity from all of his characters and it’s nuts.
It’s not even that Han was being evil. Greedo was straight up telling Han he was going to kill him. It’s Han just not being an idiot and thinking “I better wait for this guy that is saying he’s going to kill me to take a shot at me because I need to be 100% sure of his intentions.”
Based. I hate “Han shot first.” Greedo couldn’t get a shot off. I grew up on the “face” editions. The box VHS set.
You can shoot first and last, so it’s technically still correct.
Too bad they want you to get it from Usenet. I can’t really justify paying for that for just one movie.
https://archive.org/details/05-star.-wars.-4-k-77.1080p.no-dnr.-35mm.x-264-v-1.0-et-hd
Can’t verify at this point as it seems the site is down.
Damn it, it was down most of yesterday too. Thanks, I’ll keep trying it.
The file size was ridiculously huge, but I found a torrent which was of a size I can actually handle on my drive.
You’re ridiculously huge /s
True, but I was also be able to find 4K80 and 4K83, so it was worth it, even though each one is still like 6 gigs for 1080p.
Also, I’m watching 4K77 right now. The most interesting thing is how the film grain changes from scene to scene depending on where they were shot.
Hope you enjoy them (seriously)
I enjoyed it quite a bit, thanks!
You know what I thought was funny though? The effect when Han shoots Greedo is just a big explosion. There’s no blaster bolt. Just EXPLOSION- Greedo falls over.
So maybe neither of them shot first, Greedo just spontaneously combusted.
Not MY Star Wars:
As far as I’m concerned, that was a scene with a different Jabba, a big Irish guy in a fur coat. But it wasn’t in the movie, so it doesn’t matter.
It was better without Jabba, leaves the buildup for later.
Agreed, but then if you watch the movies in chronological order, which I think is what the expectation is at this point, absolutely none of the buildup in any of the original trilogy matters.
Best I’ve heard, if you’re watching the originals, is to watch them as 4,5,1,2,3,6 - the logic being that you don’t spoil the big revel and 1-3 are like a flashback to see how we got to “now”.
Then skip 7-9.
Then play Star Wars: Squadrons for at least 10 hours (you may split this up with sleep if you like, or a little ham), then watch Rogue One
7 is fine, it’s just a rehashing of 1 for a new generation. It just needs to be followed up with a “and then Poochie died on his way home to his planet” single animation cell that explains what happened to Luke.
The end.
I choose to believe that Luke was a ghost the whole time. He was killed with the other Jedi when Kylo Ren attacked the Jedi Temple. Rey is just seeing a Force ghost, and ghost Luke and confused and angry which is why he’s acting so weird.
Probably doesn’t line up perfectly with what happens in TLJ, but I only saw it once when it was released so I can just remember Rey visiting Luke at a bad time when he was an angry ghost. Nothing really happens in TLJ anyway so there’s not much reason to watch it again.
Precisely. If Lucas didn’t bother to retain that actor/character for ROTJ, then it never happened.
I agree. That said, this fan did a ‘fix’ of the version with Jabba in a pretty ingenious way.
Ok, now that’s clever and reasonable. More evidence that Lucas has always needed outside voices and not just “yes men” to reign things in.
I just read this on Wikipedia about CG Jabba (apparently) being upgraded for a 2004 DVD release from the 1997 “special” edition-
ScreenCrush later reflected that the 2004 version “was an improvement, but only in the way that nausea is an improvement over vomit”.
I love it.
NEW Holo Jabba FIX | Episode IV A New Hope 4K Edit.
😏
Yeah, well… kids today…
This was such a stupid, stupid scene. Like all the other “humor” scenes he started injecting.
Jabba’s way too small. And there’s no way in hell he’d let him just stomp on his tail like that. And…sigh.
The humor basically had to be added to the scene, otherwise Han would have stepped through Jabba’s tail. It’s a shot that is blocked just fine if you shot it with a big Irish guy who didn’t have a tail.
The ultra rare laserdisc version is holy grail
Harmy’s despecalized edition FTW.
Picard: “Original film reel transfers.”
Scotty looks surprised
Picard: “Who do you think gave them to Guinan?”
Would be funny if the last panel had George Lucas in the turbolift with a knife
I believe you are being what RPG circles call a “grognard”
Brilliant meme btw. Cheers.
Not mine, to be clear. I saw it elsewhere.
Copy that.
I think that’s what he did.
does the computer have access to the original release? or is this thanks to one of the restoration/preservation projects?
Did Lucas actually add to or change anything about the movie for the 1981 re-release with “Episode IV: A New Hope” other than just the title scroll?
The Wikipedia article I linked doesn’t say so. I don’t think he made any major changes until the Special Editions.
