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      Fun fact: the 5.7mm round the P90 uses was not being produced as a blank. So the armorers bought TONS of live 5.7mm and made those into blanks.

      This actually caused a supply bottleneck for none other than the US Secret Service, who were also using P90s at the time. They actually had to ask, or buy, not sure which, several thousand rounds from the show armorers for training until ammo production could ramp up stateside IIRC.

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        Secret service: “hello, bullet store? Yes, why are our bullets on back order?”

        Bullet store: “oh, sorry, the space people bought most of our stock.”

        SS: “The… what?”

        BS: “The space marine people. They travel in portals, fight aliens. Yeah they bought like 80% of our ammo”

        SS, voice shaking: “Sir please hold for a moment, Im going to have to fetch my supervisor…”

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        I read it they had trouble getting ammunition for the P90 because of the Iraq war so they switched to different weapons towards the end of the show. I’m not totally sure though I’m too lazy to look it up.

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        Imagine if somebody fucked one of those up like they did with the set of Rust…

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          The fact that they didn’t makes one wonder how much one would have to fuck up to actually end up firing live rounds on set.

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      Yes! “This is a weapon of terror. And THIS is a weapon of WAR.” Love me some SG-1 maybe I’ll fire it up later tonight hmm.

      It’s ridiculous and over the top but I love every second of it.

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        “The United States is not in the business of interfering in other people’s affairs”

        “Since when Sir?”

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      She’s one of my go-to examples of a “strong female character” that Hollywood has completely fucked up in the last ten years or so. Carter is smart, resourceful, quick on her feet, and more than capable on the battlefield.

      But not a superhero who can beat up, say, Teal’c or other Jaffa 3x her size. She’s also very much a woman and exhibits feminine traits accordingly. You know, like how real normal people behave.

      Also on the list: Sarah Connor, Dana scully, Laura Roslin, Captain Janeway despite her flaws, a few others…

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      The doctor was also one of the crushes for me. She had that friends hot mom feeling in the show.

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      The show took a lot of shots at the military, but it never dwelled on it. I feel like it took just the right amount.

      The uniforms did add a USAF patch on the sleeve in season 5, which is often called the “Area 51 Apology Patch”. Might be seen as cheap brownie points with the military, but it also makes sense within the show, so not immersion breaking.

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    Im watching Stargate for the first time at the moment and im really surprised by how good it is. on season 7 at the minute and cant wait to see whats coming.

    Are Atlantis and SGU just as good or is there a dip in quality?

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      SG-1 is one of my all time favorite shows! It changes so much over the years but everything works IMO, even 9 and 10 which are typically lower rated than the rest.

      Atlantis is watchable but nowhere near as good IMO. Characters aren’t nearly as memorable, there’s a lot of plot threads that go nowhere, the cast turnover is quick, things like that. To be fair I heard there were a lot of production issues and unexpected issues, and it’s a miracle SG-1 was as good as it was given all of their numerous issues.

      Fuck everything about Universe, I couldn’t stand that show. YMMV

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        I liked each series in a different way. Universe felt to me like the first few episodes of Atlantis but an ongoing damage control situation. SG1 is definitely the best out of the three.

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      SGU is very different but I enjoyed it for that, some interesting home/away comparisons andmore in the SG universe (pun not intended) is welcome.

      Atlantis is great, Christopher Heyerdahl in multiple roles too.

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      SGU had a shakey first season and was hitting its stride in the second when they cancelled it. apparently there is an official comic that wraps the story up, but tbh where they left it… it kinda works…

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      Depends on your expectations… I personally liked Atlantis but SGU somehow failed to captivate me. Both shows somehow fizzled out without really leading anywhere (you could say the same about SG1 but at least they closed up the main plot lines before opening a bunch of new ones which didn’t really have clear purpose).

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        I’ll provide a counterpoint. I never loved Atlantis but I really liked SGU. especially the second season when it really hit its stride. I don’t think either of them were nearly as memorable as SG1 though.

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      Whilst I respect the entire show and all the work it did as far as I’m concerned season 8 episode 20 I think ith the fishing pond is the place you should genuinely end. The follow up series are ok but don’t add anything,

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        It’s really an entirely different animal than either of them, but ranks right up there with them in terms of quality.

        SG1 is a 50/50 serious/fun ratio, with long running plot threads mixed in with adventure- of-the-week episodes. It’s a bunch of friends saving the galaxy and having fun doing it. It’s got a real sense of Earth’s slow progression from the mostly forgotten backwater homeworld of humanity all the way to being a major power in two galaxies.

        B5 is like a 90% serious novel about war and politics.

        BSG is 100% grim, and it becomes really obvious in later seasons that while the Cylons might’ve had a plan, the writers sure as shit didn’t know what it was supposed to be. This unfortunately makes it overall the weakest of the three IMHO.

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          I thought the Cylons’ plan was to eliminate humanity and replace it with a “better” version, which was the human cylons? It was interesting that their religion ended up getting in the way of that. But I didn’t hate BSG’s ending, which I realize puts me in the minority.

          Anyway, thanks for sharing the detailed opinion, I appreciate it. I think I’ll give SG a shot later tonight. Other than the Expanse, high quality sci-fi has been hard to come by for a while now, so it’ll be cool to try something new.

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            If you missed SG1, I am guessing you missed Farscape too. It really makes aliens actually Alien, it’s universe is so weird and fantastic. And the characters and their interactions are great.

            Definitely worth adding to the list.

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    SG1 is a show that I feel never made a mistep to the point where I can call out a bad episode. Unlike various star trek series that had their WTF episodes that are generally disliked.

    I always hoped for one more piece of the story with the original team, details were floating around of the final movie and I think covid killed that off.

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      Disagree.

      I guess I’m the only one who actively hated ‘200’ when it aired.

      The show was great, I’ve watched every episode multiple times (except ‘200’).

      But there was a very clear quality decrease as time went on, I mean they even started letting Teal’c write a handful of 'em.

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    I actually just recently re-watched SG1 for the first time in probably a decade or more now. I was half expecting to have my fond memories ruined, but that wasn’t even remotely the case. I still love it, and probably always will.

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      I just introduced my girlfriend to stargate, and she’s never liked any sci fi, but she loved it so much. It’s such a great show. Funny and lighthearted and usually easy to watch, but still touches on really deep subjects and has incredible storylines and what ifs. Looking back on it too, I realized how many sci fi tropes seemed to start there, or how many episodes of other sci fi shows clearly took inspiration from them.

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        I feel like campiness has become a lost art form. Stuff these days generally tends to take itself very seriously while Stargate was self aware and knew how to lean into it. At the same time—as you mentioned—it wasn’t afraid to do more tonally serious episodes from time to time. I think that mix is what allowed it to have such a long run.

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      Not the whole episode, but yes. The puppets were made by the same people who made the Team America ones.

      The episode is wild, the puppet sequence isn’t even the most over the top part.

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        That whole episode was gold.

        Your post has me wanting to do a rewatch of the series. I should see if any of the streaming services I’m on has that series on there.