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  • gordon
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    02 years ago

    What if, and hear me out on this, you go and start posting a bunch of ai images of trump sucking Putin off. Just a thought.

  • @BeardedGuy@beehaw.org
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    72 years ago

    Man, I was just posting how I feel like we’re losing all of our core media social platforms… It’s hard for me to not feel like there’s some level of orchestration going on

      • @BeardedGuy@beehaw.org
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        42 years ago

        Fantastic article, thanks for sharing! I had a hard time trying to figure out how to reply to you since we’re on different domains, but I found a reply button in my message notifications… The pains of learning a new platform!

        I’m excited to read some more articles from Pluralistic :)

        • lightrushOP
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          2 years ago

          Figured. I’m pretty new as well. It takes a few days to get used to but it’s pretty easy to use afterwards. I like it. Enjoy your stay!

      • @Thrashy@beehaw.org
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        42 years ago

        Rasputin v. Stalin (v. Lenin v. Gorbachev v. Putin) still pops unbidden into my mind, especially in light of current events.

        I’m the host with the most glasnost!

      • @omarciddo@beehaw.org
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        22 years ago

        They’ve slowed down considerably, but ERB still put out new ones a handful of times a year and the quality is still pretty damn high!

    • GrandmasterFrank
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      92 years ago

      It’s more like, compulsive contrarianism.

      Oh yeah, everyone else is gonna STOP using reddit? Well we’re just gonna double down!

  • @mizmoose@beehaw.org
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    332 years ago

    For a brief period of time I was on a place on Reddit where new users could get help finding their way around the site.

    Someone shows up there and says, “I’m not sure why I’m even on this libt++d communist site, nobody here will respect the way any good conservative American thinks.”

    I’m thinking, OK, snowflake, don’t melt so hard from being a victim, but I responded with, “You might try /r/Conservative, and I can ask their moderators if they have any other suggestions.”

    I did so: I sent the moderators of /r/Conservative a message explaining what I was looking for and asking for any advice they might have for this new user. The response I got back was, “LOL, F+++ off.”

    Lovely, lovely people there.

    (100% that good conservative American was on the libt++d communist site for the free porn.)

    • @1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org
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      2 years ago

      Yeah I tried a few good faith attempts there. People would post asking why there was “no evidence of x” or why “this has never happened” or why “liberals are too afraid to answer y”. So I’d link a news article, or a summary of the argument they were asking about.

      I think I ended up getting 6 different accounts banned before I gave up.

      edit: Also kind of funny how often they’d brag about never banning anyone, while being one of the most ban-happy subs on the platform.

      • @JCPhoenix@beehaw.orgM
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        132 years ago

        I had something similar happen to me in r/republican. Pre-Trump, it actually wasn’t a bad subreddit. You could have relatively civil discussions in there. I often used it to see and ask how Republicans/Conservatives thought about various things. I always tried to be respectful, understanding that that the wasn’t “my sub.” I flaired myself with a ‘D’ or something so it’d be obvious that I wasn’t hiding and trolling. Had some OK discussions in there the few times I’d dare to chime in.

        But it changed once Trump started running. I once was having a civil discussion with a user, trying to understand their take, and ended up linking to an article from a large, mainstream publication, to show what I was talking about.

        I was banned with no comment. When I politely asked mods what I did wrong and if I could be unbanned if I promised to not do whatever I did again, I got the message: “Don’t link liberal sources.” And it wasn’t a liberal source! Just something not from Fox or wherever. From then on, I could lurk, but I could never comment.

        And the mods got crazier. I’d see that they’d remove comments and ban anyone, even Republicans, who spoke out against Trump. At that point, there was no reason to go there anymore.

      • @mizmoose@beehaw.org
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        122 years ago

        Oh, yeah. The subs that claim they never ban are the ones with the biggest ban hammers.

        There used to be some really icky subreddit dedicated to… basically being a bunghole. “Public Health Watch”, I think. It was anti-LGBTQ+, anti-women, anti-just about everything. Everything was a threat to these poor little pseudo-incels (they couldn’t even be incels right). I forget how I stumbled on it, but one day one of them posted a link to a study that “proved” something about women and their sexuality and how it damaged men and I don’t remember clearly, but their conclusion was so stupid. So I read the damn study and it explicitly said the exact opposite of what they said. I replied with whole paragraphs from the study showing that the study said disagreed with what that post claimed. I was banned within minutes.

        On the one hand, I kinda get it: I regularly deal with pseudoscientists who cherry pick through studies to find one or two sentences that agrees with them, instead of what the study actually says, and claim I’m “interpreting” the study wrong. On the other hand, when you’re the cherry-picker, you don’t get to be angry when someone else reads the rest of the words and finds out you’re the dimwit.

      • @acupofcoffee@beehaw.org
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        122 years ago

        I got banned because I called healthcare, daycare, education, and paternity leave “pro-life” measures.

        Granted, I didn’t belong there, but I tried to regularly converse in good faith… which they never really deserved anyway.

  • Senator Bum Cuckets
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    82 years ago

    Oh god, I shouldn’t have looked. Their idea of free speech is posting obvious propaganda and shitting on minorities. Classic

  • @herzberd@beehaw.org
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    282 years ago

    One would think that a platform killing third party apps and forcing consolidation of users into their app would set some alarms off in the minds of the “we freedom oorah come and take it” party. Unfortunately they don’t even pretend to match the branding on the tin.

    • Spacebar
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      52 years ago

      To a conservative, freedom is second or third behind respecting authority and corporations are king.

      There is a reason they love Trump - he’s a wanna be dictator. There’s a reason they cheer tax cuts for business and the wealthy while they get screwed.

    • @GiantBasil@beehaw.org
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      32 years ago

      Well, voat is gone (i think), but Saidit is Right there, mostly empty and waiting for them, hopefully they’ll go there and stay there. i actually saw people suggesting saidit to other people last week, so fingers crossed.

    • reric88🧩
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      152 years ago

      Please!

      I’m all for freedom of speech, but I’m really irked by the lengths people go to just to be offensive.

        • I was banned for “promoting the party switch myth” when I pointed out that the Republican Party of the 1860s is not the same as the republican party of 2020.

  • UnderlyingLogic
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    212 years ago

    Always needing to be the contrarian, no matter the subject or how it may hurt them as well.

  • @Mainframed767@lemmy.ml
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    312 years ago

    This is exactly what happened to DIGG* and what’s currently happening to twitter.

    Conservatives get beaten down by the vast majority of users and get a chip on their shoulder. Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do, and eventually realize the echo chamber sucks and then move on to the other social networks that everyone else went to, and the process repeats.

    I hope with federation that the cycle doesn’t repeat but we’ll see.

    • DIGG made their big DIGG 4.0 change to overhaul the algorithm because it was being gamed and brigaded by members of conservative forums at the time. It just so happened they did it with a user interface overhaul. For a while, after most everyone moved to reddit, the top posts were mostly conservative stuff.
    • @parapsaeon@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      They’re doing the same thing that Republicans in Congress are doing/proposing: gerrymandering and raising the voting age. Conservatism is at odds with democracy.

    • lightrushOP
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      2 years ago

      Makes sense. I caught a bit of late Slashdot then went RSS to news sources for a while, then Reddit. I didn’t have informed and fleshed out view of the political spectrum at that time to notice. Maybe I’ve gobbled up some shit that I had to undo later. This reminds me that I miss the Slashdot comment labels. A FOSS platform like Lemmy could be a place to experiment with it.

      • @roblarky@beehaw.org
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        62 years ago

        That’s what happened to me back in the day. Being young and naive, definitely picked up some things I had to undo and look back with cringe.

    • @StringTheory@beehaw.org
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      72 years ago

      Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do,

      This is a really clever metaphor. Someone with the skills needs to draw it in the style of a political cartoon from the 1910-20s.

      (Also, I saw a great quote somewhere about how conservatives destroy things because they don’t have the capacity to build. Your “drilling holes” reminded me of that.)

  • @SickIcarus@sh.itjust.works
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    152 years ago

    Wow, absolutely nobody in here gets what they’re doing and just wants to shit on “conservatives”. What they’re doing is what the other mods should also be doing - mod strike! Take down the barriers and let Reddit get overrun with bots, spam, and low-effort posts. If every sub did that instead of the weak-ass “dark for two days guise!” Reddit management would fold immediately.

    With this two-days-dark plan, management thinks (correctly?) that they can just wait it out and they win. And they’re probably right. No competent strike ever gives a deadline and expects it to work, that’s absurd. The smarter subs have at least said “at least two days, then we’ll reassess” - that’s the better approach, keep it open-ended.

    But the best approach is what /r/conservative seems to be doing, which is just put down their tools and walk the fuck away. Reddit management would have literally no response to that approach if it was the approach taken site-wide.

    But whatever, keep shitting on the nazis.