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nobody doubted that the worst of reddit would take over after we left
I demodded myself from shittyadvice before I destroyed my account, but prior to that I posted my idea for what SA should do. I’m convinced that sub exists to cordon off all the trolls so they don’t ruin the rest of Reddit but giving shitty advice elsewhere. My plan was just lock the sub but tell everybody in there to spread the love and Make Reddit Shitty Again, aka MRSA. We’d spread like an incurable disease.
I was going to make a comment about how I confused “SA” for Something Awful, but as I continued to read I saw it was still an apt analogy…
Hey, you don’t see me complaining they stay there and don’t migrate to Lemmy. I’m pretty fine with that.
I see this as an absolute win!
I realized that Lemmy being slightly more difficult to get started would mean that the user base will be smaller, but fewer low-effort people would make the switch, so it’s really a plus.
I disagree. Us more tech-savvy people will come across, sure. But most people aren’t. And they have hobbies and jobs too, and want a place to gather online for that.
I managed to figure out Lemmy, and I’m not tech savvy at all.
Its not rocket surgery. It only seems complicated because it is new. Once you get past the sign up phase and figure out how to find Communities it is easy-peasy.
Boots ain’t gonna lick themselves…
maybe if you pull them up by the bootstraps gently…
Someone throw a padlock on that group to keep them in Reddit.
Please!
I’m all for freedom of speech, but I’m really irked by the lengths people go to just to be offensive.
r/conservative is also not a place for free speech. They ban people for asking questions.
I was banned for “promoting the party switch myth” when I pointed out that the Republican Party of the 1860s is not the same as the republican party of 2020.
Well, voat is gone (i think), but Saidit is Right there, mostly empty and waiting for them, hopefully they’ll go there and stay there. i actually saw people suggesting saidit to other people last week, so fingers crossed.
🤞
For a brief period of time I was on a place on Reddit where new users could get help finding their way around the site.
Someone shows up there and says, “I’m not sure why I’m even on this libt++d communist site, nobody here will respect the way any good conservative American thinks.”
I’m thinking, OK, snowflake, don’t melt so hard from being a victim, but I responded with, “You might try /r/Conservative, and I can ask their moderators if they have any other suggestions.”
I did so: I sent the moderators of /r/Conservative a message explaining what I was looking for and asking for any advice they might have for this new user. The response I got back was, “LOL, F+++ off.”
Lovely, lovely people there.
(100% that good conservative American was on the libt++d communist site for the free porn.)
Yeah I tried a few good faith attempts there. People would post asking why there was “no evidence of x” or why “this has never happened” or why “liberals are too afraid to answer y”. So I’d link a news article, or a summary of the argument they were asking about.
I think I ended up getting 6 different accounts banned before I gave up.
edit: Also kind of funny how often they’d brag about never banning anyone, while being one of the most ban-happy subs on the platform.
I had something similar happen to me in r/republican. Pre-Trump, it actually wasn’t a bad subreddit. You could have relatively civil discussions in there. I often used it to see and ask how Republicans/Conservatives thought about various things. I always tried to be respectful, understanding that that the wasn’t “my sub.” I flaired myself with a ‘D’ or something so it’d be obvious that I wasn’t hiding and trolling. Had some OK discussions in there the few times I’d dare to chime in.
But it changed once Trump started running. I once was having a civil discussion with a user, trying to understand their take, and ended up linking to an article from a large, mainstream publication, to show what I was talking about.
I was banned with no comment. When I politely asked mods what I did wrong and if I could be unbanned if I promised to not do whatever I did again, I got the message: “Don’t link liberal sources.” And it wasn’t a liberal source! Just something not from Fox or wherever. From then on, I could lurk, but I could never comment.
And the mods got crazier. I’d see that they’d remove comments and ban anyone, even Republicans, who spoke out against Trump. At that point, there was no reason to go there anymore.
Oh, yeah. The subs that claim they never ban are the ones with the biggest ban hammers.
There used to be some really icky subreddit dedicated to… basically being a bunghole. “Public Health Watch”, I think. It was anti-LGBTQ+, anti-women, anti-just about everything. Everything was a threat to these poor little pseudo-incels (they couldn’t even be incels right). I forget how I stumbled on it, but one day one of them posted a link to a study that “proved” something about women and their sexuality and how it damaged men and I don’t remember clearly, but their conclusion was so stupid. So I read the damn study and it explicitly said the exact opposite of what they said. I replied with whole paragraphs from the study showing that the study said disagreed with what that post claimed. I was banned within minutes.
On the one hand, I kinda get it: I regularly deal with pseudoscientists who cherry pick through studies to find one or two sentences that agrees with them, instead of what the study actually says, and claim I’m “interpreting” the study wrong. On the other hand, when you’re the cherry-picker, you don’t get to be angry when someone else reads the rest of the words and finds out you’re the dimwit.
I got banned because I called healthcare, daycare, education, and paternity leave “pro-life” measures.
Granted, I didn’t belong there, but I tried to regularly converse in good faith… which they never really deserved anyway.
I’m impressed that you managed to find 6 posts that weren’t “flared users only.”
This is exactly what happened to DIGG* and what’s currently happening to twitter.
Conservatives get beaten down by the vast majority of users and get a chip on their shoulder. Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do, and eventually realize the echo chamber sucks and then move on to the other social networks that everyone else went to, and the process repeats.
I hope with federation that the cycle doesn’t repeat but we’ll see.
- DIGG made their big DIGG 4.0 change to overhaul the algorithm because it was being gamed and brigaded by members of conservative forums at the time. It just so happened they did it with a user interface overhaul. For a while, after most everyone moved to reddit, the top posts were mostly conservative stuff.
Makes sense. I caught a bit of late Slashdot then went RSS to news sources for a while, then Reddit. I didn’t have informed and fleshed out view of the political spectrum at that time to notice. Maybe I’ve gobbled up some shit that I had to undo later. This reminds me that I miss the Slashdot comment labels. A FOSS platform like Lemmy could be a place to experiment with it.
That’s what happened to me back in the day. Being young and naive, definitely picked up some things I had to undo and look back with cringe.
Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do,
This is a really clever metaphor. Someone with the skills needs to draw it in the style of a political cartoon from the 1910-20s.
(Also, I saw a great quote somewhere about how conservatives destroy things because they don’t have the capacity to build. Your “drilling holes” reminded me of that.)
They’re doing the same thing that Republicans in Congress are doing/proposing: gerrymandering and raising the voting age. Conservatism is at odds with democracy.
So a corporate douche CEO wants to screw over their own userbase in the name of money alone and they are 100% onboard with opposing the boycott/protest…
…but are perfectly fine harassing and threatening stock workers at Target over Pride Month displays, outright absurd-levels of “boycotting” because of a limited-edition can with Bud Light, and the whole Chick-Fil-A DEI hire?
it’s a cult. (always has been.)
Yes, perfectly on brand.
One would think that a platform killing third party apps and forcing consolidation of users into their app would set some alarms off in the minds of the “we freedom oorah come and take it” party. Unfortunately they don’t even pretend to match the branding on the tin.
Freedom for me but not for thee
Well, no. See, it’s a private corporation doing this. In the pursuit of money. So they can’t be wrong. Jesus said so in the Bible.
To a conservative, freedom is second or third behind respecting authority and corporations are king.
There is a reason they love Trump - he’s a wanna be dictator. There’s a reason they cheer tax cuts for business and the wealthy while they get screwed.
Nothing says conservative like being happy about big and sudden changes.
Well you’ve got to remember that these big and sudden changes are great because they benefit the ruling class which the conservatives will eventually become once they’ve pulled their bootstraps tight enough.
It’s just basic logic.
/s
They won’t leave a single boot unlicked
It’s more like, compulsive contrarianism.
Oh yeah, everyone else is gonna STOP using reddit? Well we’re just gonna double down!
That’s how you get boot herpes…
so i did cave in and open https://libreddit.kavin.rocks/conservative/new and i promise you all, if this was an ironic subreddit, i would’ve pinned this to my browser.
it’s just too goofy right now and they’re all so proud, i cant help but love it.
i hope they continue to “conserve” reddit LOL. @bumblefumble said it best:
“Nothing says conservative like being happy about big and sudden changes.”
EDIT: replaced link with libreddit alternative
I rather like this trend of conservatives and their like piling up the mainstream social media, leaving the decentralization and smaller medias to those with more progressive thinking.
It feels like things are upside down when I see it happen the other way around.
Nothing says conservative like failing to see the hypocrisy of your own ideology.
/r/conservative tomorrow be like
Holy smokes I forgot about epic rap battles!!!
Rasputin v. Stalin (v. Lenin v. Gorbachev v. Putin) still pops unbidden into my mind, especially in light of current events.
I’m the host with the most glasnost!
They’ve slowed down considerably, but ERB still put out new ones a handful of times a year and the quality is still pretty damn high!
Always needing to be the contrarian, no matter the subject or how it may hurt them as well.
Is there a reason why they’re doing this? Blackout’s not even political. They just want to be contrarian to everything.
Pretty sure they figure it’s all the “Leftist Libtard” subs going dark and so, yeah, they’re gonna be congrarian to that. And, at the core, the blackout is about sharing tools to produce a more inclusive community. And that’s the sort of thing /r/conservative is staunchly against. So it makes sense they’d go out of their way to go contrary to that.
Many conservatives are convinced that Reddit is basically a communist website at this point, so anything Reddit approves of MUST be bad
Well, Reddit the Community. Reddit the Company clearly doesn’t approve of the blackout.
I assumed the idea was to fill reddit with trash content. A lot of subs didn’t go dark, so flooding the homepage with trash content will pollute the existing experience.
Their posts don’t seem to deviate much from their usual posts. Target achieved, I guess?
Don’t you love it when your normal MO is the hot new thing?
That’ll pull in a lot of new users. Conservatives and chuds will see it and flock there. Wouldn’t surprise me if any of the investors eyeing the IPO were among them.
So… a bunch of hateful, ignorant jerks are going to be even more obnoxious than usual? And they think that’s a good thing?
If the blackouts aren’t enough to drive people away, this will. Congratulations, reddit! You’re getting the user base you deserve!
I was hoping to see it brigaded a ton but unfortunately a quick peek confirms they are just posting some vile anti LGBTQ+ crap.
Par for the course.
Posts like that actually deserve to be brigaded, but nobody wants to throw rocks at the hornet’s nest. Honestly, I can’t blame people for avoiding and ignoring that cesspool.
