• fckreddit@lemmy.mlEnglish
    156·
    2 months ago

    Am I supposed to be impressed? I have a PhD level intelligence and I am not exactly impressive.

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      77·
      2 months ago

      You missed what they meant. It means gpt5 is really good at one arbitrary and extremely specific topic. Anything else it’s comparable with a random person on the street.

      • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
        384·
        2 months ago

        Reality is the opposite though. GPT5 is expert in a pretty wide amount of trivia. It’s better than the average uneducated person in every subject, but worse than an expert in every subject.

      • howrar@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Anything else it’s comparable with a random person on the street.

        I’d say we’re actually worse than the average person at everything else. Too much of our brain is allocated to our research.

        • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          It does seem like there’s an inverse correlation of general intelligence/common sense and specialized study.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPMEnglish
      18·
      2 months ago

      I still count and do math with my fingers and still fuck it up. I guess they’re just like us. 🥲

      • arctanthrope@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        I do that and I have a BS in mathematics. and in 4th grade I literally used to write “I hate math” at the top of my math homework. as much as primary education systems want it to be, computation speed is not mathematical aptitude. you can memorize multiplication tables up to 20, that’s not gonna help you understand Cantor’s theorem

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          At one point I had an audio book version of Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman. One of Richard Feynman’s memoirs, he avoids talking about his work for the most part and tells stories in oddly low-level English about the shenanigans he’d get up to in his off hours. The entire book sounds something like this:

          “One day I decided to go for a walk. I passed a bar. There was music playing in the bar, and people were dancing. It sounded great. I went inside to look at the girls. Their dancing looked great. I noticed one of the musicians was playing a little drum. I asked if I could try. He let me try the drum. It made a really interesting sound.”

          At one point, he was in a bar, and was approached by an abacus salesman, who challenged him to a math race. The abacus easily bested Feynman’s mental math in addition, subtraction, multiplication and division, managed to outpace him in exponents and logarithms, and then it just so happened that as the math problems got harder, it just so happened that Feynman had the answers to the exact problems asked memorized, so it appeared he did them instantly in his head. Like by coincidence they asked the exact problem he’d spent the previous week calculating.

  • pHr34kY@lemmy.worldEnglish
    68·
    2 months ago

    To obtain a PhD, you need to contribute something original to your field of study, not just regurgitate what you’ve scraped from other studies.

  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    432·
    2 months ago

    I hate the way the media makes this problem so much worse by incorrectly describing LLMs. They can’t “have intelligence”. They are incapable of any kind of thought. The “intelligence” of GPT1 and GPT5 are the same, in that neither have any. They are complex computational algorithms designed to generate text from prompts. That is absolutely not the same thing as thinking or knowing things.

    There are entire cults springing out of the ground believing LLMs to literally be thinking feeling beings 💀 we are so beyond fucked.

    • BillBurBaggins@lemmy.worldEnglish
      66·
      2 months ago

      You can say the same thing about an ant or a slug. I don’t think the philosophy of what intelligence is is as cut and dry as what you say.

      I agree they’re pretty stupid, but I wouldn’t say they’re zero on a scale of zero to human. If an llm type algorithm happens to be some part of the human intelligence algorithm then an llm has some fraction of intelligence

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    2 months ago

    They’re also talking about data centers in space, yet are too cheap to use anything but evaporative cooling + supplemental gas generators on Earth.

    I did some math on, amongst other things, launch costs for an Earth-data center sized installation, or the area needed to radiatively cool it, and it is fun:

    https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/heatrad.php

    See that power of four? Areas get very large, like kilometers wide, if you want your coolant below a typical 300K (~30C), and apparently no one told Bezos that little detail.

    Those space construction startups know what they’re doing. They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      That’s just wealth redistribution /s

    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      Look, I’m not saying it’s a good thing. In fact, it would be an insanely wasteful use of resources, labor, energy, etc.

      That said, folks are all about “eat the rich” and this may very well be the closest thing to that.

    • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      Those space construction startups know what they’re doing. They’re selling billionaires a bridge to nowhere; and it’s working.

      Guess I should have gone CHA instead of INT.
      I might have gotten some of that billionaire money to buy more RAM.

    • howrar@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      PhD level of sufficiently regular but transient discipline and hyperfocus.

  • markovs_gun@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    2 months ago

    I feel like I’ve been hearing this stupid “PhD level intelligence” claim about every LLM that’s come out since ChatGPT was first released, including GPT-3.0 which it launched with. It kind of amazes me that people keep falling for it and not questioning how the new model having “PhD level intelligence” is both a true claim and also noteworthy when the claim is made about every new model.

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      Iv met enough phd holders to know that they can and frequently are still unabashedly wrong on the vast majority of everything they talk about that isn’t hyper specific to a narrow and niche topic.

      So phd level intelligence to me just means it’s more prone to the being confidently wrong and judgemental.

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      It will analyze and parse primary sources with all the discernment of a pure math PhD! Design bridges with all the insight of a literature PhD! Diagnose medical problems with all the experience of a supreme court justice!

  • WanderWisley@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Me: “Hey GPT-5 Ive been diagnosed cancer.” GPT-5: “Have you thought about using cocaine and essential oils!”

    • toynbee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      My brother, who has a Ph.D. in pure mathematics, says that all a doctorate means is that you’ve learned to talk a lot.

      I don’t and never will have one, so this is the only relevant information I have.

    • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Slight correction based on my experience and because even without a PhD, people regularly put in the time to become subject matter experts:

      Someone with a PhD isn’t inherently more intelligent than other humans. They are able to put up with the institution abuse and bullshit required to be given a title that designates them as a subject matter expert in a field.

      No shade to PhDs, I feel your pain.