• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Even if penicillin, it tastes awful, and if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?

    I bit bread like this once and I can still vividly taste it.

    • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?

      No, it has virtually no chance to help you, and most probably can only hurt you.

      First, it kills indiscriminately. If you’re not sick, what are you killing? Your own healthy gut flora. That’s what.

      Second, what if you are slightly ill? Guess what? It still probably won’t help. Doctors don’t just throw penicillin at you in random amounts. They prescribe a specific dose that has been shown to be effective. Having one untested dose of unknown quantity isn’t going to help.

      Third, when you’re given antibiotics, you are told to take it over a number of days, and to take the entire amount, even if you feel better. They do this for several reasons, but one of the reasons is that, if you only kill some of the bacteria, but not enough of them, the remaining bacteria have a small chance to evolve to become resistant to antibiotics. By taking antibiotics without the guidance of a doctor, you have a small chance of making yourself even more ill with antibiotic-resistant bacteria. I want to emphasize that this is a very small chance, but unlikely things will happen when given enough chances.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        1. Penicillin is useless, and has been for 25 years
        2. The resistance myth from not taking the full regimen of antibiotics was disproven years ago. Doctors still quote this because they would rather read Mercedes brochures than manuscripts.
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      I ate moldy bread by accident once. Didn’t see the side with the mold until after I made the sandwich, I was also high. That one time and tiny amount was one of the most horrible things I’ve put in my mouth. Spit it out immediately and had PTSD about moldy bread ever since. If I see a tiny bit forming that shit is not going near my mouth, the whole bag is gone.

      Really don’t understand how anyone could “eat around it” or even eat other slices in the pack. Bread is really cheap, just throw it away. Don’t play Russian roulette with foods.

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        3 months ago

        the whole bag is gone

        Well, that’s how it’s supposed to be done. Since mold is a fungus, what shows up on the surface is the reproductive parts that spawn spores, meaning the rest of the bread probably has mold too.

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      Tasted kind of limey with a subtle hint of grandma dustiness to me when I ate a slice without looking at it, I now thoroughly check the entire surface.

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    That’s a conversation I’ve had more than once with my parents:

    – Doing X is fine! Everybody did it in my time and we grew up just fine!

    – Didn’t that friend of yours die because of it?

    – Yeah, but he’s only a single person, and everybody did X…

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      Anytime I hear this argument from someone, I tell them to go look up the term, “survivorship bias”.

      I mean we figured this shit out during WWII, FFS. People need to keep up.

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          Partly because the famous example is from WW2 not WW1. We did not have planes like that in WW1, unless you exist in the world of Yojou Senki but at that point you have other problems like Niche god, Megalomanic Jesus, and Tanya Von Degurechaff ranting about the Chicago school of economics.

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    Food is so weird. Bread becomes toxic waste after 8 minutes of being opened, but there’s probably some cheese species that gets fermented up the asshole of a mountain llama for 6 months, being stuffed back in after every bowel movement, and is still edible (if you’re into that sort of thing) after 400 years of being left in a dank cave amongst the frothing remains of a rotting gerbil cemetery.

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      Cheese is weird because someone had to be like, well let’s go ahead and store some milk in the stomach of an animal, but also they forgot about it under a chair for 3 months and then, upon finding it, thought, “well let’s have a go anyway, despite it changing forms.” And then eventually someone realized if you stuck it in certain caves it became delicious. So much human history just in that one food product there.

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    So I can’t actually find anything from a quick search that tells me what “bread poisoning” is. Searches show results for both moldy bread as well as ergotism. Just about every source on the Internet tells me that eating a bunch of moldy bread should just give you a bad case of shits or vomits. But if someone is immunocompromised or has gut issues it could be worse.

    But if this was ergot poisoning that’s different and doesn’t have much to do with ordinary bread mold.

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    Penicillin is one of many types of bread mould.

    I too will probably die from bread mould poisoning given my stingy habits with food waste. It’s fine if it’s only the white/blue type, right?

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      I used to be the same way, following the same thought process. Just cutting off the visible mold and a small area around it. I stopped after I got food poisoning from a restaurant and had to eat hospital food for a week. Then I started up again immediately after getting back home to my moldy food. Still no repercussions, that I can tell

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        This past summer I hadn’t been to the cottage for over a month but I had some food left in the fridge. I brought home a can of opened berry jam I had there and I didn’t want it to go to waste. I ate from it three or four times before I noticed the large patch of mold that was growing on the lid and the underside of the top of the inside of the jar. I like saving food because I grew up poor but at the same time, I’m not going to send myself to the hospital to save a bit of jam … I threw the jar away after that.

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          I started up a compost to help cover my conscience about food waste. Worst case scenario, my food is reborn as tomatoes, kale, and herbs. Or as a raccoon because I forgot to secure the lid.

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      Sardinia is nasty for that cheese. Its also illegal in the EU and is traded on the black market in Europe (The cheese not Sardinia).

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    I’m just sad because no one will get my santaroga barrier reference, it’s just something you have to feel.

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    some assholes say that we’re risk averse.

    dumb fuck assholes who think the risk of dying from food poisoning is worth it just to look tough.

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    Actually… if you put moldy bread into soup, does it become safe?

    My grandma used to throw all for moldy food into soup and she lived into her 80s completely healthy.