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Narrowed it down to a single planet.
narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!
I assume they mean “just north of Antarctica”. But really it could be any body of water on the planet it could fit in.
“Just north of Antarctica” is still not helpful at all though. Even a hemisphere would narrow it down more.
Just north of Antarctica in the southern hemisphere.
Listen here you little shit.
The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.
the peninsula is considered the north side
look at the peninsula
it’s on the west side
You’re looking at it from the South Pole, so there is no West, only North.
Well sure, and I get that, but the map we’re looking at clearly has a W-E line marked, presumably on the prime meridian. It’s pretty westerly in that regard which seems like a pretty sensible perspective to me on how to navigate at the south pole.
If you handed me this map and told me to go North I would go to Dronning Maud Land.
It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.
But where is the Weddell sea?
Just north of Antarctica
It’s wrapped around by that peninsula that juts toward(ish) the Andes.
Yeah… probably “between Antarctica and the South Atlantic” would be the best reference here.
[Now it’s probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]
It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.
Yeah, the Weddell Sea is basically in Antarctica
Ah. South of the Arctic.
Yeah even “near Antarctica” narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.
if we suppose “just” means near in this context, “Just north of antarctica” and “Near antarctica” has exactly the same meaning.
It still narrows it down to about 1/8th of the Earth’s surface area.
Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn’t sound like that.
I looked it up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc
I might have seen it once a long time ago, but I don’t remember what he sounded like, so I can’t confirm that for you.
If “north of Antarctica” isn’t enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it’s also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it’s easy to find it!
We don’t talk about what’s South of Antarctica
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We’re not allowed to know /s
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Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
And west of the equator.
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not ‘north of Antarctica’.
It is, ‘the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.’
Giving ‘the Weddell Sea’ as the location is actually decently specific, and the ‘north of Antarctica’ that follows is modifying / adding to the description of ‘the Weddell Sea’… not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.
It should probably say, “off the Antarctic coast”, or even “X kilometers off the Antarctic coast”.
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea is obviously going to be north of it
Just looking at that map seems to show the Ross sea to the south
Sir do you know how globes work?
I think he’s probably trolling us, because he’s doubling down on it elsewhere in the thread in face of all the people explaining it to him. Nobody is that dumb.
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I see you’ve bought into the globey lie of a round earth.
Uh?
Probably the author made this exact mistake
Nothing is more South than the south pole. Everything is north of it. The map is looking directly at the “bottom” of the earth.
While you’re not wrong, you’re also massively over-analyzing and "WELL AKSHULLY"ing what appears to be a silly one-liner, not a serious attempted dunk on the article.
I am not going to apologize for having humor standards above that of a middle schooler.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
It is still valid to point out that “north of Antartica” is a silly phrase in context, even though it’s fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been “Weddell Sea, near Antarctica”.
I’d go with “the Antarctic’s Weddell Sea”.
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
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The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn’t add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.
Is there any Mediterranean Sea south of Africa?
If you don’t know where Mediterranean Sea is, saying it’s north of Africa is a useful thing. Regardless of how many Mediterranean Seas there are.
The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.
Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea… that just becomes a matter of perspective.
In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent
Tthat’s not south of Antarctica though. It’s below, in terms of the map’s perspective, but “absolute south” is the middle of the picture. Anywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica.
Let me guess, you think earth is flat cause maps are flat.
Tell me you didnt read my comment without telling me
I did. Doesnt mean you made any sense. Any direction from Antarctica is north no matter what perspective.
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I’m not sure you understand what south means. It’s not “on the bottom of a map”, it’s “towards the south pole”. The south pole is in the middle of the linked map. On Antarctica.
Yes i get that
But we also live on an oblong sphere, which is 3 dimensional
The axes of north and south, east and west, are two dimensional
If you have a ship that can sail through anything, with infinite provisions, and you sail past the south pole, you will end up going north. That doesnt suddenly discount the fact that up until a certain point, you were going south. If the sea is immediately around the island, which it is, and is on the opposite side of the exact point of the axis, i wouldnt call that a misnomer.
When you are in that area you’re essentially sailing south until you’re sailing north. If we came at it from the other side it would likely be called something different.
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It looks like some parts are south, east or west of parts of Antarctica. Sure, it’s all north of the south pole but that isn’t the question.
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No. There are parts of Antarctica that are north of the sea. That is, you can be in Alaska and travel south and hit the sea. It really depends on where the two points are.
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The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
You better believe I’m here for this squabbling
You’re not wrong, you’re just insufferable.
Nah, spectral IS wrong. The “complaint” isn’t arguing grammar, it’s explicitly pointing out that there’s a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence “I live north of Antarctica.” gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been “The weddel sea, which is made of water,…”
Could you enlighten me, then? How on earth does “north of Antarctica” modifiy or add to “the Weddell Sea” in any way, shape, or form?
The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.
I’m wondering if you fail to realize that the entirety of the antarctic coast is “north of Antarctica” which makes the description a virtually useless modifier.
Nothing wrong with the grammar, just the logic.
It seems they forgot to mention it was on earth. They really should have indicated it was within the solar system too. No mention of being located in the Milky Way galaxy or the known universe either.
Prime “AKSHUALLY” moment.
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
I used to ask my dad where we were on car trips.
“Directly above the center of the earth.” Thanks asshole.
That’s a good one *takes notes
The earth is a bit lumpy, so chances are that was a lie and he was actually lost and couldn’t figure out how to get everybody else out of the car so he could go on a trip to get milk.
*Directly above the gravitational center of mass of the Earth
Sheeeeesh, happy?
I should’ve put “ackshually” and /s
I guess I should have too, I was playing along with you :P
Just in the South of the Arctic
Was Ernest okay?
Eventually, yes! To find out how, read his book. It’s honestly one of the best books I’ve ever read.
Also the miniseries with Kenneth Branagh is pretty good. Then for counterpoint watch The Last Place on Earth
A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s somewhere in that direction
everybody know “top-left” means north-west ! just say that !
I can specify: south of the arctic.
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Are kids today so Vine-brained they don’t understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.
For further clarification:
The Antarctic Peninsula(the long bit sticking out) is the furtest part away from the south pole in the antarctic and is thus the northernmost part, and is generally considered to be the “north” when using cardinal directions there. The Weddell Sea is off the coast of the peninsula.
And is part of the southern ocean, to make it real clear
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Yeah, you’re right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weddell_Sea?wprov=sfla1
If you leave Antarctica, you’re heading north. Is it North of Antarctica toward Australia, South Africa, Patagonia or some other northerly direction from Antarctica?
That’s the ambiguity inherent to the headline.
Where else would you succinctly say the Weddell sea is?
East of the Antarctic peninsula.
Anyplace off the coast of Antarctica is, by definition, north of it. But the Weddell Sea is a specific area of the Southern Ocean.
