• @xye@lemm.ee
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    314 hours ago

    Darn that science, keep that liberal where it belongs, in the humanities.

  • crazyhotpasta
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    520 hours ago

    Dunning-Kruger reminds me of this one president and his cabinet.

  • @elfpie@beehaw.org
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    320 hours ago

    Reading the discussions and some of the disagreements, a correction is needed to be more precise.

    Some XX people will be Assigned Male At Birth. Some XY people will be Assigned Female At Birth.

    • Tlaloc_Temporal
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      110 hours ago

      Some XX people live their entire lives as men without ever knowing otherwise, and the same happens with XY individuals living as women. Even having children won’t reveal the apparent discrepancy, unless they need certain tests done.

    • @pyre@lemmy.world
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      252 days ago

      it is basic biology, ie biology simplified to teach a kid in middle school. the thing is sciences don’t stop at middle school level. a lot of university education is about clarifying that things you learned before were simplified to the point that they’re practically useless if not outright wrong.

      • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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        61 day ago

        Light travels in straight lines, next year its a wave and then its particles. What you said isso true about uni rethreading.

        • @reinei@lemmy.world
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          320 hours ago
          Tap for spoiler

          You don’t technically need particles!

          Meet me next week for more hot physics takes nobody needed.

        • @CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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          To be fair light does travel in straight lines (more or less… ignoring that nothing travels in any set or even single path something something veritasium video), its not lights fault if a straight line in physical reality doesn’t always happen to match up with the geometry we invented.

    • @nyctre@lemmy.world
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      A person’s biological sex usually refers to their status as female or male depending on their chromosomes, reproductive organs, and other characteristics. Chromosomes are tightly packed DNA, or molecules that contain the genetic instructions for the development and functioning of all living things. Humans typically have forty-six chromosomes. Two of those are sex chromosomes that contain instructions for the development and functioning of characteristics related to biological sex, such as reproductive organs. There are two kinds of human sex chromosomes, X and Y. Individuals identified as males tend to have one X and one Y chromosome, while those identified as females tend to have two X chromosomes. However, other people are born with other chromosome combinations, such as XXY, that lead them to develop a mix of characteristics. People who fit that description are often referred to as intersex, a category for people whose bodies do not conform with stereotypical expectations of males or females at birth.

      Taken from here

      Evidence seems pretty strong to me.

      • @IZZI@lemm.ee
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        -822 hours ago

        Yeah, and those are malformations and genetical defects that come with a lot of problems.

        I don’t know why people glorify them… Also, there is absolutely no way that a man born with XY magically will change it in their lifetime as the posts sugests.

        • @nyctre@lemmy.world
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          922 hours ago

          This article seems to disagree. But I don’t know much on the subject so I might be misunderstanding.

          Also, no matter what the correct answer is, pretending the answer is binary is definitely wrong. Since it’s obviously a lot more complicated.

          • @IZZI@lemm.ee
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            -821 hours ago

            From the article:

            “Girls born with XY chromosomes are genetically boys but for a variety of reasons – mutations in genes that determine sexual development”

            And again, they don’t magically become the other sex, that was already determined at birth.

              • @IZZI@lemm.ee
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                -521 hours ago

                Well, to be fair, not magically and not in any other way, it is impossible to change your sex

                • @nyctre@lemmy.world
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                  420 hours ago

                  You’re the only one talking about this. A change can occur without any surgery. Reread the article to understand better, please.

                  You read the article and you even quoted it. It says how xx people can be men and how xy people can be women. Nobody said anything about any surgery or magic pill that grows a penis or whatever you’re imagining.

  • @EnthusiasticNature94@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    182 days ago

    I agree with Dr. Jey McCreight on the science.

    But for determining truth, both sides are wrong here.

    Dunning-Kruger is bad, but so is credentialism and appeal to authority.

    Many people with PhD’s have had Dunning-Kruger. Someone else mentioned Ben Carson being great at neurosurgery, but not politics.

    A PhD doesn’t make you infallible.

    I am saying this as someone who is taking graduate-level courses and will be pursuing my PhD. When I’m correct, it’s not because my future PhD causes reality to magically conform to my opinions - it’s because I rigorously looked at the evidence, logic, and formed my own conclusion that better aligns with reality.

    • @Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com
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      Okay but what is good engagement against “follow the science” aside from “I literally DO the science”? Dr. McCreight offered a point and was met with “nuh uh” so at that point it can hardly be called an argument or debate. Do those fallacies honestly matter at that point when one refuses to engage with tangible points of discussion?

  • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    …and all in between, hormonal and/or physically. “Only two genders” is false

  • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Note how they always enshrine gender in biology, but then make all kinds of non-biological statements about what gender is.

    “XX is woman”/“Large gametes is woman”/“can conceive is woman”

    And then they’ll say

    “Women aren’t as aggressive”, “women are more emotional”, “women like being in the home more”, “those are women’s clothes”, etc.

    The only reason it’s so important for it to be biological is because of how it punishes gender non-conformity and makes the lives of trans people hell. Like it isn’t ideologically consistent and they know that. They just don’t care. If it was just about genitals or chromosomes, then why is it that gender dictates all these social things about us? The only reason to root gender in how you were born is to ensure gender roles are as rigid and immutable as possible.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      The only reason to root gender in how you were born is to ensure gender roles are as rigid and immutable as possible.

      This, this right here, that’s the game, that’s the whole game. They want to punish transness and then start changing what the definition of trans is.

      “Your daughter was wearing pants, and said no when my boy asked her out, that’s trans behavior and it’s unAmerican, might have to report you to a correction agency if this shit doesn’t stop.”

      • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        182 days ago

        Yes, there are many species that have more than 2 sexes. Those are decided by scientific consensus.

        But sex is ultimately a category to describe the process of reproduction. By definition, this is exclusionary. It’s why conservatives fumble so much when trying to describe sex in terms of actual definitions. Inherently, it is not possible to fit every person into a table of 2 columns in that way. Sex is not a binary because human beings are not binary. There is an incredible amount of variation in our bodies.

      • Krik
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        72 days ago

        Relating to humans?
        Yes but they are mutations (e. g. XXY, XXX, etc.) that often give rise to numerous biological problems or death.

        I don’t know if there are species that require more than two sexes to propagate. I never head of them.

        • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          You are vastly underestimating the prevalence of chromosomal variations. They are common, especially among cis women.

          I like the way you phrased that at the end. Sexes are categories that relate exclusively to the concept of progeny. If you’re not able to reproduce, you’re already kind of excluded from the sex binary. If we break the human concept of sex down to its constituent parts, it is just “can procreate”. The categories are useful in some contexts, but to state them as universal or to try and extrapolate them so widely is significantly disruptive and unhelpful. Humans are and always have been more than our reproductive anatomy. Your doctor and anyone you want to reproduce with are really the only people who need to know whether you fit into either category.

          • Krik
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            52 days ago

            But that’s not more that two sexes. It’s the same number or less. A hermaphrodite isn’t a third sex, it’s two sexes side by side and a sexless cellular organism has exactly one sex.

            The distinction male/female is usually determined by measuring the size of the gametes. Female gametes are the bigger ones (e. g. ovum) and male gametes are the smaller ones (e. g. spermatozoon). There are organisms where the gametes of both sexes have the same size. So technically they have two sexes but don’t fit the categories male and female.

              • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                42 days ago

                Sex in the sense that we have been talking about it here is in reference to mammals. The moment you wander outside of the mammalian class of vertebrates these concepts of sex start to become far less applicable.

                There are many birds that have more than 2 sexes. Reptiles and invertebrates as well. Asexual reproduction would be classed as it’s own sex apart from any male/female system.

          • skulblaka
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            42 days ago

            Correct on both counts. To make it even better, there exist some creatures that primarily mate and reproduce sexually, but can also reproduce asexually if the situation requires it - I think ants, and some reptiles, if I remember right.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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    492 days ago

    To be fair, a Person with a PhD still can have Dunning-Kruger on other subjects.

    Ben Carson is a great Neurosurgeon, but dumbass on politics.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    222 days ago

    One time a woman told me that my lack of a second X Chromosome meant I would “always be a man”

    So I gaslit her into thinking her husband had klinefelters.

    I hate how Republicans think transphobia is science

    • @Tibi@discuss.tchncs.de
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      I think it’s sus that a Math Lecturer decides to post an article about philosophy and then doesn’t describe any of the steps he took. The article basically just says i did a thing, but doesnt explain what he did/how to reproduce the result… On the other hand, philosophy is a field with many wrong conclusions and the like, so it is believable. But again in my eyes it’s not proven, since it’s just ‘one guy’ saying something and not replicated nor reproduced.

      Edit after replied comment edit: The second article you linked (actually the first in the post) changes my believe about the dunning-kruger effect. Thank you for sharing!

  • FackCurs
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    292 days ago

    Can I get a T shirt that says “I have Dunning-Krueger and your Phd looks cute”? I just have a lot of BS to share and I don’t want to be sorry about it.