• neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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      Yes. Water + spicy rocks. Everything else is solar power, which is also nuclear power, but with the spiciness in the sky instead.

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        I mean, radioactive isotopes are formed in supernovae, so it’s really just solar power from a different sun, right?

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          It’s all gravity in the end. Or probably middle but I don’t know why gravity, so that’s as far as I can reduce it.

          Everything we see around us is just hydrogen trying to get closer to the middle of the biggest hydrogen party it can find in the general vicinity. And we were all once part of at least one massive party that eventually got a bit out of hand when we all tried to get so close together we bounced off of a neutron star before it collapsed into a black hole.

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      Most power generation is just steam spinning turbines. Solar’s just weird. Wind cuts out the steam loop.

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        Reflective solar is normal at least. But photovoltaics are weird. Even weirder is that they’re LEDs backwards, and the fact that transistors just are like that is why they’re encased in black plastic

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          Unless you WANT your transistor to be this way and use it so you put an actual led inside the plastic as well to mess with (i.e. turn on and off) the transistor!

          Also I would argue that wind could also be considered ‘steam’ turning a turbine. It’s just vapour pressure ‘steam’ with a LOT of other pollutants which somehow increase the efficiency!

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    Reminds me of the meme using the Donnie Darko psychologist template.

    Donnie: I made a new form of power generation.

    Psychologist: New or steam?

    Donnie: Steam…

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      Steam implies water! What if we used some OTHER phase-change working fluid? :D

      ||(No idea what, though. my question is implied with a playful tone and is at least 50% facetious; any actual discussion that might result would be little more than a pleasant coincidence)||

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      The only truly new method of power generation we’ve made in the last 100 years has been photovoltaic cells. Everything else is just finding new ways to make turbines spin.

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        I’ve actually seen this same meme used in the opposite way where they did discover a new way but I don’t remember enough information to find it. And I don’t think it was talking about solar.

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    Nearly all power generation comes down to boiling water to steam which spins a turbine.

    I can only think of two common exceptions off the top of my head. Solar is an exception and Hydro power is an exception ironically, that usually uses the vertical difference and gravity to spin the turbine.

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      Yeah, who would have guessed that modernity was invented by someone who stuck magnets to a fidget spinner and strapped it to a boiler.

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      One could even argue that hydro power is just boiling water, letting it condense, and then letting it spin a turbine

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        I’ve never heard of Hydro power boiling water. Usually hydro power is natural or pumped storage.

        You’re just taking water from an upper reservoir and dropping it to a downstream river. Either a naturally-filled reservoir/lake, or a pumped storage reservoir where you use other cheap power during low usage periods to pump that water to a higher reservoir to utilize later. The pump doesn’t heat the water, it just moves it uphill to utilize later, like the Taum Sauk Hydroelectric Power Station in Missouri.

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          They were speaking of the water cycle. It’s the naturally-filled part. Not necessarily boiled, but evaporated.

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          I know that… I was taking liberties to take hydroelectric power to its furthest logical extension by saying that the sun is evaporating (boiling) the water, it goes through the water cycle, it is deposited atop mountains or further upriver, and it then flows back down through the hydroelectric stations.

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      Wind? And binary cycle geothermal plants but not sure how common they are.

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    I heard that somewhere in the US there were parts of a nuclear power plant being delivered by steam train. So that’s basically one steam engine supplying another! (^^,)

    I can’t seem to find an article about it anywhere, so it might be an urban legend :(

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      Given that the first commercial nuclear power plants in the US were coming online in the late 1950s, that’s entirely possible. Steam trains were well on their way out by then, but there were still a few hauling freight around.

      Fun adjacent fact: even when the British Empire had moved off of wind sails and into coal, those coal ships didn’t have the range to possibly cover the entire Empire. Coal stations were setup around the world, and the coal had to be transported by sail. The previous technology helps get the next generation technology going.

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        Sail ships continued to be used well into the 20th century. The absolute last purely sail powered warship served during WW1!

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    Nuclear power is the refining distilling and enriching of uranium into unstable isotopes and higher elements, boiling water is one small step in converting nuclear energy into electrical energy.

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      into unstable isotopes

      No, they were there all along.

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      Those have been researched and tested for decades and the tech still hasn’t caught on. They just don’t put out enough power to be useful for much more than a clock circuit (not even enough to power a full watch, just keep the time).

      I have serious doubts they’re going to suddenly become viable anytime soon.

      Any useful energy production from nuclear is basically just making steam to run turbines. Same with coal but you know.