• trainsaresexy
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    297 months ago

    I feel like lemmy is in a decent place right now. The main page is busy enough with a good amount of OC and alright discussion. It’s a lot to ask for 1000+ active niche communities. I have a few things that bug me and I’m not sure ballooning members would fix it: reddit-like anti-social behaviour, excessive reposts, and posts about MAGA people. I’ve blocked a lot of communities, some users, and very few nsfw instances.

  • /home/pineapplelover
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    Lemmy is one of the most harmful platforms I’ve ever been on.

    Not even on Reddit have I spent so much time on here. Quality content and engaging conversations taking so much of my time and doomscrolling. I love you guys, keep it up.

  • @Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee
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    307 months ago

    I really hate graphs that start at 99% and top off at 100%

    The gain is really next to nothing in the 2 months shown in this graph. It goes from ~1,456,000 to 1,468,000… which is a 00.8% increase, less than 1%.

    • FundMECFS
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      57 months ago

      Yep we’re gaining 1’000 new accounts every couple days, maybe every week. Which is pretty cool given we have an average of 40’000 active users. But nothing compared to the total of 1.5 million accounts. The vast vast vast majority of which are dead. Made one year ago to check out lemmy and never came back.

      • Nato Boram
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        37 months ago

        There’s also lots of people who made an account in multiple instances before realizing that you don’t have to do that

        • FundMECFS
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          47 months ago

          Or people like me who keep on switching instances because they want to find the perfect one that blocks everything they don’t like and federates with everything they like.

          • @egonallanon@lemm.ee
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            17 months ago

            Can’t users just block entire instances themselves now? So the trick would be to join one that broadly follows your interests and cut down as required.

        • @Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee
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          17 months ago

          People make throwaways all the time for services like this. I expect lemmy to be no different.

          Monthly active users would be a better statistic to track imo. That gives you a real idea as to how big the community is.

          Anecdotally, content wise does seem better than a few months ago. Unfortunately lots of it seems to be highly polarizing and hateful stuff when you look at all communities. Othering seems to be as strong as ever, if not stronger. Probably because hate groups can just setup their own instances or take over parts of existing ones without much blowback like they would get on other sites.

          • FundMECFS
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            06 months ago

            Yeah I don’t feel like it feels much larger. But at the same time my blocklist has added 30+ accounts in the last couple of months.

  • mesaOP
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    The interesting thing to note is each website I go to that looks at the total number of lemmy users is wildly different. Im wondering if there is some sort of blocker/defederated instance occurred a couple of months ago? Im not sure.

    Either way, number of users are up.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      217 months ago

      I’ve BEEN saying this for a while now. How Lemmy users need to welcome new people with interests that are different than their own. People from different generations than their own.

      I’ve given ideas how to make starting an account easier. The concept of picking a home instance for someone who’s never heard terms like “instance”, “federated” or “decentralized” can be quite intimidating to start. And if you fuck up, and randomly choose the wrong instance? You have to start over. All your comment history gets left behind.

      So people are going to choose the most active instance, trusting the idea that OTHER people know what they’re doing.

      I gave the idea that Lemmy needs to adopt standards across all instances so you can push a button and move your account. All your data would come with you.

      Instead I was given a list of technical reasons why it would never work. The basis of these reasons came down to “it won’t work because it would be a lot of work”.

      I hear a lot of people on here complain about corporate greed, and enshitification, but you gotta admit that they do get shit done.

      In 2010 Steve Jobs was reviewing the new iphone prototype. Jobs said he wanted it slimmer, and wanted it airtight. The developers said it was pretty airtight, and there was no more room inside to make it slimmer.

      Essentially telling Jobs that his demands were not going to be met because it would be a lot of work. So Jobs stood up, grabbed the prototype, walked to a fish tank, and dropped it in. It sank, and bubbles came out. Thus destroying it.

      He said “See that? Bubbles. There’s air inside, which means there’s room inside. It also not airtight. Make it smaller, and make it airtight.” Then he left the room. When it released to the public, the final design was smaller, and airtight.

      Not saying it WON’T be hard work to make true account migration a reality, but it IS possible. The developers just figuratively need their prototype dunked in a metaphorical fish tank.

      Because until this process is easier, and users are greeted with a friendlier userbase, people are just going to sign up, realize they fucked up, realize the experience isn’t great, and leave. If they have access to reddit, they will leave.

      It seems everytime I search for a topic all the results are from a year ago. Which suggests to me that reddit fucked up, users exploded here, gave it a chance, disliked it, and left.

      Meanwhile, I point out just SOME of the glaring problems. But instead of embracing the problem and starting a think tank on how to fix it, my posts are instead turned into an echo chamber of how wrong I am. How the ideas will never work, and the problems presented persist to this day.

      All because I’m thinking from the perspective of the normie 95%, and not the linux minded 5%. Which really places an artificial self installed glass ceiling on top of you.

      • A Wild Mimic appears!
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        17 months ago

        I agree with you that the onboarding process is complicated for a user that doesn’t want to invest time into learning how the fediverse works.

        I think that is a positive thing.

        The good thing about the Fediverse is that it isn’t profit driven, it isn’t necessary to grow without end, and because of this it also isn’t necessary to appeal to the mass of users who don’t want to learn how things work here. It’s a filter, weeding out the people who aren’t open to new structures - that often comes paired with the inability to have open minded discussions.

        I do agree with you regarding the missing transfer options, but since karma isn’t a thing here, a simple import/export function for subscribed communities and blocked items should suffice, and shouldn’t be too hard to implement.

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        27 months ago

        I agree with your argument, but not what you’ve applied it to.

        “Federation” isn’t the main feature of Lemmy, and we don’t need to focus on it. It’s enough that it exists. When selling a house, would the first thing you focus on be the insurance rates if something goes wrong?

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      Again the interesting thing is that a lot of other sites have a huge difference in numbers. But they are all saying the same thing, “Active” users are declining or getting close to equilibrium but number of users are increasing. Strange.

      I personally think that piefed/mastodon/other servers federating with lemmy might be messing up the numbers in some way. Both pumping up the numbers and making others “go down” in different sites and how they are pulling the data. Like if I respond via my mastodon account, is that a “new” account? Does that make it pop up as an active user? If I dont repost it via the mastodon account for a while, will I now be an inactive account, even though I still look at lemmy with it? Im not sure.

    • Sparky
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      27 months ago

      The decline might be because instance owners have strengthened the account creation process. I remember in “the early days” how there were an insane amount of bots, but now it seems like most of them have been banned or mitigated.

  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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    717 months ago

    It’s amazing to me just how hassle-free it is to use Lemmy as opposed to reddit.

    Rddit just feels like it’s actively trying to get you to leave it.

    • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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      97 months ago

      The latest annoyance is that they will AI-translate posts and stick those into search engines.

    • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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      207 months ago

      Reddit is like the late Roman Empire. It looks fine on the outside, but it’s corrupt all the way down, powered by unpaid labor, and the lead pipes are slowly killing everyone.

      • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        No, no, the pipes are fine (mostly). They have calcium buildup that prevents lead leeching.

        The REAL major source of lead poisoning in the Empire is much stupider - knowingly making wine syrup in lead pots because the lead makes it taste sweeter. Despite knowing that lead is toxic af.

        There’s probably an apt comparison in that to Reddit as well.

    • SkaveRat
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      37 months ago

      Interesting. May I ask how?

      Because with old.reddit and RES it really doesn’t feel much different (apart from the vibes in the communities)

  • @lohky@lemmy.world
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    557 months ago

    I migrated over to Lemmy a few weeks ago when the piece of shit Reddit app refused to load any posts but continued to load ads. I have found this community to be far more interactive, kind, and enjoyable to discuss pretty much anything with. I haven’t found a reason to return to reddit at all.

  • @FartVentriloquist69@sh.itjust.works
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    257 months ago

    Lemmy at first was Abit barren but I’m super happy with it now. Let’s hope we don’t see reddit collapse and the masses turn their attention here like the digg event

    • @Chill_Dan@lemmy.world
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      187 months ago

      My biggest complaint is it’s dominated by memes, and in a distant second is news, and that’s kinda it. We need so much more diverse content still.

      • @tempest@lemmy.ca
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        117 months ago

        Be the change you want to see!

        Anyway those are probably the lowest effort content which is why you see it most. Over time though the other forms will come. Most of Reddits front-page is memes and news for the same reason.

      • @Rolando@lemmy.world
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        47 months ago

        What I do to get around that is: subscribe to communities that are not memes, news, or tech, then read new posts by “subscribed” and “scaled”. When I run out of those, read “all” to find new communities to subscribe to.

    • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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      157 months ago

      I hope Lemmy doesn’t become overrun with reddit’s far-right psychos after reddit collapses.

      • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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        137 months ago

        We can’t stop them from using Lemmy either. They’ll come.

        But this time we can defederate from servers that tolerate intolerance.

        • Draconic NEO
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          27 months ago

          Also encouraging our local instance admins who are or seem receptive to not tolerate the intolerant.

      • Draconic NEO
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        57 months ago

        I imagine that many will flock to right-wing friendly instances that end up widely defederated. Most of them though will go back to 4chan and other similar sites.

        • Cowbee [he/they]
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          27 months ago

          Exploding Heads is a Nazi instance that many people don’t even know about because of how defederated it is.

          • Draconic NEO
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            37 months ago

            Was, it’s no longer in existence currently. Many of them moved to Nostr, though some of their members came back to Lemmy and set up the hilariouschaos Lemmy instance.

      • Fish [Indiana]
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        67 months ago

        Like Facebook, Reddit will probably just become a cesspool of conservative morons. I’m fine with them staying on Reddit. I don’t think it’s gonna “collapse” anytime soon.

      • @BMTea@lemmy.world
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        -27 months ago

        So long as the Israeli bot networks stay off of here. I don’t like how China is discussed here but it’s a function of the type of people this place attracts, i.e not fans of authority.

    • sweetpotato
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      37 months ago

      On one hand I think it’s very positive that everyone starts using decentralised platforms that don’t run on profit, that work for their users and not their shareholders, but on the other hand having a space mostly without conservatives is great.

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      Yeah thats another good one. Its almost like it would be useful to see what each tracker would do in the following scenarios:

      1. Create a persona instance with a couple of accounts (like 3)

      2. See what each site says

      3. Create a post/ create comment/ upvote sample post.

      4. Ban an account (How many active users are now being counted? How many comments? Did that comment/post go away retroactively?)

      5. other such experiments…

      6. Let everyone know the results.

      Wish I had more time.

  • FackCurs
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    67 months ago

    Which iOS client are y’all using? The native Lemmy website was just way too slow in loading and refreshing posts. I’m using Memmy but it often crashes when searching for communities…