• ZephrC
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    466 months ago

    Okay, but bumblebees are the best though. Even fluffier than honey bees, and they almost never sting humans.

    Sadly they’re also one of the types of bee that’s losing out in their native habitats to human supported honey bees.

    • @Opisek@lemmy.world
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      Do you know why that would be a positive evolutionary trait? Clearly, if they try to retract it, at some point in the history they must have been able to do so.

      • @Muehe@lemmy.ml
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        186 months ago

        Because bee stingers are mostly used against other insects. They don’t get stuck in a chitin exoskeleton, only in the more flexible skin tissue of mammals. In insects the barbs instead pull out soft tissue from inside, thus making them more lethal (to the bees victim).

      • @bouh@lemmy.world
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        126 months ago

        It makes it more dangerous : the sting is attach to the venom bag, so the venom bag gets to empty itself whole if it stays. Evolution would have chosen the survival of the hive, not the survival of the bee.

        One thing is weird though : you can extract the sting of a wasp with a pincer. The wasp will live through it. Why do the bee dies when it loses it’s sting and not the wasp?

        • ZephrC
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          16 months ago

          That doesn’t even make any sense if you stop and think about it at all. Sure, a single worker bee dying isn’t a huge deal, but they all do that. It would definitely be better for the hive and the queen if they didn’t rip their own guts out.

          • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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            16 months ago

            but worker bees generally don’t have to sting anything, the amount of them that do have to do so is low enough that it’s not a big issue, and they have probably gotten work done before dying anyways.

      • JackbyDev
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        56 months ago

        Bee genetics are wild and helped develop a system where it doesn’t matter that the workers have tendencies to off themselves.

  • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    106 months ago

    Well maybe it would be easier to “Give them some Space” if their pupae didn’t completely cut off all their food processing in the fall leading to rampant aggression as they seek out sugary and fermented smells such as beer, fruits, and candy.

  • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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    166 months ago

    To them you are a giant who can easily kill them

    And I relish in proving them right. Fuck wasps and fuck your wasp propaganda.

    I’ve given bees snacks when they’re tuckered out on a hot day. I’ve let them rest on me. But with wasps and hornets it’s on sight.

  • @Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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    156 months ago

    I had a yellow jacket fly out of the blue then land on my heel and sting me for absolutely no reason! There wasn’t even a nest nearby!

    Then a week later another yellow jacket landed on my arm and stung me right under my watch band

    Pretty rude if you ask me

  • @multifariace@lemmy.world
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    116 months ago

    I think wasps and hornets are beautiful, fascinating creatures. Most of them don’t mess with me even a few inches from a nest. There are one or two species that are looking for war and get the spray.

  • @jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    116 months ago

    Tarantula Hawk

    Wasp equivalent of an A-10 Warthog

    Captures tarantulas in a way that resembles Tony Soprano disposing of a body

    Doesn’t know what the fuck you’re staring at and doesn’t really care enough to stop what it’s doing

  • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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    136 months ago

    I’ve been stung about half a dozen times by wasps so far this year. They’re beginning to piss me off.

    And as an adult, my sister stepped on a hornets nest and damn near ended up dead. 150 stings had her in ICU for 4 days.

  • 🔍🦘🛎
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    336 months ago

    Sure, but wasps made a nest right by our front door, and have the audacity to sting me when I simply walked outside. Maybe not assholes on purpose, but they deserved what they got.

  • @UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    186 months ago

    There are different kinds of wasps. Where I live, out of the many many kinds, only two are annoying in that they are aggressive and try to get your food. All others are chill and will leave you alone if you leave them alone. We had a nest outside our house one year. Often times, our paths would cross. A wasp would collide with us, just sit there in the air for a second, then fly around us. No time to chat, gotta get food for the hive. Also: bees and bumblebees will just take the day off if the weather is shitty. Wasps? MUST GET MORE FOOD. Hailstorm? Tornado? Lightning strikes five yards away? No excuse.

  • @essteeyou@lemmy.world
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    506 months ago

    The wasp stings me to protect its family, I kill the wasp to protect mine. Glad it’s me who’s the giant.

  • @JillyB@beehaw.org
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    116 months ago

    What pests are wasps and hornets killing? The wasps and hornets *are" the pests to me.

  • @Hlodwig@lemmy.world
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    426 months ago

    Common wasp and germanicus vespula (european wasp) are both considered pest. Both dont pollinate. And both kill and destroy other friendly species when they do not harass you to steal your food. Same for asiatic and common hornet.

    All other wasp and hornet like the blue hornet are friendly and help the ecosystem. But you will rarely encounter them cause they let you the fuck alone and mind their own business…

    • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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      26 months ago

      They ARE in fact both pollinators! I get the wasp hate, but they are rather misunderstood, that’s what the meme is about! Depending on the region you live in, learn which wasp and bee species are invasive in your area and support the native ones (including the common wasp and germanicus vespula).

      • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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        26 months ago

        I try to give paper wasps a pass if I randomly see them, but if they come inside or start a nest in outdoor equipment, they’re gone. They only get consideration because they’re pollinators and generally not aggressive, but they still will attack so my patience is thin.

  • I Cast Fist
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    106 months ago

    Honest question: how do the typical bees (the big ones used for honey production) negatively affect native bee populations? Competition for polen?

    • @Podicipedidae@mander.xyz
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      186 months ago

      You basically got it. European honey bees consume the already dwindling nectar and pollen resources for North American native pollinators. Furthermore, European honey bees are also worse at actually pollinating North American flowers because they did not co-evolve with the species we have here.

        • @reinei@lemmy.world
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          16 months ago

          Just because you waste 80% of the food you get doesn’t mean you can’t still be twice as fast as everyone else at getting new food!

            • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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              26 months ago

              They often don’t. Honey bees are surprisingly good at collecting pollen of many plant species without transfering it to other flowers and pollinating them.

        • @Podicipedidae@mander.xyz
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          26 months ago

          They are not conflicting but I can see how you might think that. Pollen is plant sperm. In order for pollination to occur many plants have special needs. The pollen has to be “picked up” and transferred to the female stigma. One example of how honeybees take nectar but don’t pollinate flowers are flowers that require “buzz pollinating”.

          Hope that clears things up. Happy to answer anymore questions (I am just someone who is passionate about nature I’m not a professional or anything).

      • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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        They’re problematic even in their native range because people keep too many of them and they compete with other important pollinators, often other bee species. Honey bees don’t pollinate all species they take pollen and nectar from and those species are then not visited by their specialised pollinators, leading to decrease in numbers of both plants and pollinators.