• mecfs@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is why I hate it so much when authors overstate their findings in abstract, which unfortunately is extremely common in medicine.

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    2 years ago

    As a scientific researcher I am amazed at everyone being all like “yeah me too.”

    #WHAT

    How you about to be citing something without being 100% sure it actually supports your claim? That shit could easily have a bunch of qualifications you don’t know about!

    #ALSO

    Bruh. If it’s worth citing, it’s worth reading the whole paper. You might learn something or gain inspiration for future work. Plus, you know, always be learnin, yo.

    You guys are gonna hate me.

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      2 years ago

      I was aiding in a peer review and was diligently checking citations and sources to find that the majority of sources used had relevant titles but did not support the claims the author was making… I pointed these out and was removed from reviewing with the professor saying I needed to offer positive comments only ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      2 years ago

      Sometimes. Sometimes it’s an intro sentence that already has 2 citations and just needs a 3rd, and you just find a paper with more measurements and the same conclusions.

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      2 years ago

      don’t forget skimming the paper for quotes and or handy graphs if you’re feeling ambitious

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        TIL I was ambitious. And here I thought my attitude of, “I can skip these 2 papers and still have a solid C,” made me kind of a bum. NOPE! I skimmed so many papers.

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      2 years ago

      Lol at that paper.

      My favorite part about Dunning-Kruger is that I see extremely wrong explanations of it all the time. While being wrong isn’t exactly what Dunning-Kruger is about, it’s usually what those wrong explanations think it’s about.

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    Honestly if the abstract can’t deliver a succinct and accurate summary of the findings and their limitations, then it’s probably a bad paper that you wouldn’t want to cite.

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      I think, the bigger problem is when the abstract tells that everything is all nice and simple, but in reality it’s not

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        2 years ago

        … Is it ever?

        If you have to end every sentence with outliers aside… Then maybe people should understand that they are talking about the norm. Not your fringe anecdotal cases lol.

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          I’ve been far away from academia for a long time, but last time I read papers on voice processing it went something like this:

          Abstract: we’ve achieved [very good results] using this one simple trick…

          Body: actually, we will maybe not tell what was the corpus we used to measure how good we are. We’re also going to omit several important steps where they can be omitted nonchalantly, so that reproducing what seems to be a thorough description will be a pain

          So, I don’t know if it ever is all nice and simple, but man could it be better if things were always done in good faith and professionally