I just got banned from linux@lemmy.ml, which seems to be the biggest Linux community out there.
For context, it was about the recent Vaxerski incident, where I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff. I wasn’t even trying to be hurtful against anyone, just shared my 2 cents in an already ongoing conversation.
Sure, ine might not agree with my opinion, and I don’t agree with others, and this is totally normal. But at least we should be able to have sane and respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else… without having a mod intervening into the conversation
So to all the mods out there: Your personal opinion does not give you the right to delete comments and block users, just because their opinions don’t align with yours!
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It looks like you were temp banned from the linux community for 3 days
The comment you made was transphobia which goes against the programming.dev code of conduct. I suggest reading the comment of the user who replied to you and learning how to respect people more
This comment
does not qualify as a “respectful conversations where no one is insulting each other, or anyone else”
thx, didn’t know I could look it up, and also didn’t receive a notification.
Yeah lemmy currently doesn’t send notifications about moderation actions
Some mod teams add it in through manually dming (which usually will happen here if someone on the admin team is warning, banning, etc. you (apart from site bans which the user wouldn’t be able to access their messages from) and its not just an obvious spammer or bot) or code their own systems to notify about actions
Everything’s viewable in the modlog though and you can filter by yourself to see all actions made relating to you
Okay you’re being a bigot. You know why? Because people aren’t demanding to be called “your highness”. They are just asking to be called with their preferred probouns. Putting neo pronouns aside, it’s not a heavy burden to be called he / she / it / they.
And this is the internet! The are no bodies, only usernames. Why do you care if a person claiming to be a girl demands to be called a she? Oh my fucking god,what a scandal! The oppression imposed upon you, a free citizen, demanding that you have to use a pronoun different than “he” on the internet! The world is doomed! 😱 /s
What you’re really asking for is the “right” to harass trans people (by misgendering them) because you don’t like them and abhor the idea of women having something extra down there. (it’s not like they’re plotting to force sex you, just leave them be, okay?) Not only that, you’re so obsessed with hating them that you went out of your way to post your biased opinion ON A LINUX FORUM.
You’re being a transphobic asshole, and the mods were perfectly right in banning you.
Just accept that there are different people in the world. If you have a problem with that, maybe it’s you who needs professional help.
Lol, that LINUX FORUM was literally about that topic. And I just participated in an already ongoing conversation which I got caught up on.
Even then, you’re still a bigot. Dude, grow up and touch some grass.
Generally, and I can only speak for myself, but GENERALLY, the way it works is someone takes offense at your comment and reports it.
That report goes to the mods of that community along with the Admins of your instance, in your case programming.dev.
Any action taken by the mods or admins is then recorded in the modlog.
In your case, you got a 3 day ban:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=7110660
“Rule 1 - No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.”
And, yeah, your comment hits that rule. I would have removed it from my communities as well.
Ban-worthy? Not for a single comment for ME at least. If it looked like you were engaging in a pattern of behavior or trolling, then yeah, that’s a ban.
Transphobic leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Let’s take islam as an example… btw, I’m a muslim.
If I’d say something along these lines “It’s absurd that we live in a society where people feel the urge to tell me to greet them with ‘sallam alleykum’”.
Would that be islamophobic?
And yes, I agree, If I were to go around and just write these types of comments on every occasion, sure, that’d be a rightful ban.
And this class is called, say it with me, a false equivalence argument. A false equivalence being when an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false logic.
Oh come on, seriously? … false equivalence? would you at least dare to explain why?
User loobkoob@kbin did so in their comment. You can simply not use pronouns. Your hypothetical doesn’t include a “just don’t say the thing” option.
Just in case the mod responsible is here in the room with us, just wanted to say thank you.
I wasn’t even trying to be hurtful
Next time try to not be hurtful. Internalize the difference.
we should be able to have sane and respectful conversations
I agree but then some folks come along and fuck it up.
So to all the mods out there: Your personal opiniondoes not give you the right to delete comments and block users, just because their opinions don’t align with yours!
Absolutely it does. Their sub; their rules. Lemmy is not a democracy.
I shared my personal opinion about the whole gender stuff.
Keep your shitty opinions that don’t concern others to yourself. Seems like people are not interested
Downvote it to oblivion then, but disagreeing or not being interested is no reason to remove a post.
Edit: Saw the post. I think the removal was valid, but the ban was a little harsh. And not being interested had nothing to do with it.
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I got banned there too for not being any kind of phobic 😥
Welcome to my block list. I guess I’m power tripping.
Totally agree, opinion shouldn’t enter into such decisions. It’s emotional immaturity to do so.
You lost me at “immaturity” here.
Why is that? Many don’t have it or the credibility to determine what’s accurate or not.
Because you don’t call grownups immature. It’s dumb.
Well, some alleged grownups are exactly that. Especially ones that believe our western propaganda without critical thinking skills.
What you describe may be undesirable behaviors, but that’s not immaturity.
Lack of critical thinking, stubbornness, indoctrination, ignorance, whatever you want to call it. Not immaturity.
I think the ban was a little too harsh, but removing that comment was the right decision.
I also see a few problems with your “your highness” comparison:
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“Your highness” is an official title, not a personal designation. Its proper usage depends heavily on the context, e.g. the perceived social rank and status, how well people know each other, if it’s a formal or informal conversation, and so on. Pronouns have none of that, you just use the one people identify as and that’s it.
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It implies that people just pick whatever term they can come up with to mess with others or to mock them. People don’t choose a pronoun lightly, they usually think about it a lot and it’s an important personal decision. They also usually pick one of the common pronouns, so it’s really not hard to just use it.
Making quick logical comparisons regarding social norms is a very tricky thing in my experience. There are many things going on that we aren’t fully aware of all of the time, and getting it wrong can hurt people badly.
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Just say they. Not he/she. They. End of argument.
What you fail to understand is that in cyberspace, people can do whatever they want to do.
You say mods don’t have this or that right, but rights don’t enter into it. They have that power, and they use that power.
ML is a brittle place based on a lie. Expecting them to behave in a fair way toward opinions was extremely naive of you.
I’ve heard about them, but I thought this was only in (political) communities I don’t even participate in.
Well, my @programming.dev account got banned!
I guess, I’ll just have to shut up, and just keep posting memes. 🤷🏻
Thanks for telling on yourself so I can block this account too. Please continue replying with any more alts you have so I don’t miss any.
wait, you can block my account even if you’re not on lemmy.world?
Hi adONis,
a “block” is not a “ban”. e.i. : if I have account ABC and from that ABC account I block user 123 then, from ABC I cannot read anything posted by 123 but I would be able to read 123’s posts from my other accounts (and so would anybody else).oh ok, I thought the previous OP was some kind of mod on one of the instances I had signed up for.
thx for clarifying 👍
