cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607
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I’m not happy with this development, but I’m slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
How is lemmy.ml pro china?
ML stands for Marxist leninist, which means they love authoritarian regimes that don’t like the US. The number of them that unironically stan Stalin is baffling.
.ml is the top level domain for Mali, it doesn’t have anything to do with Marxist-Leninism by itself. They may have chosen it as a tongue in cheek reference, but it is also a cheaper alternative to other more popular tlds like .com.
Right. And TV means Tuvalu but it actually means television far more often than Tuvalu when it’s used in a domain name.
how many websites have you seen use it based on its meaning of marxist leninist versus how many have used tv for television?
lemmy and lemmygrad, can you name others?
I hate them for ccp/russia propaganda but this is straight up mental bubble made up by some edgelord with no rational argument.
Just because you want it to be so, doesn’t make it.
Here is the rest of the story: the people who chose the subdomain chose .ml because they want it to mean marx-lenin… that’s why it means that for them.
Generally you are right. In this specific instance it was chosen for the fascism.
Okay, but. Are they Marxist-Leninist? Pro-China? Socialists? Anti-capitalists? Looks like: yes. Was the whole thing founded on the grounds of free, shared things and anti-corporate thinking? Also yes. Do we absolutely know for sure that the ML domain was chosen because of this? No, because the fucking register of the domain himself said it was chosen because it was free.
It was simply just free. People and their “knowledge” about topics they don’t know anything about…
https://lemmy.ml/comment/58293
Dessalines is the owner of the domain, one of the owners of the ML instance and one of the full-time devs of the Lemmy code.
I think an overwhelming number of people simply chose that instance becuase it was the instance, made by the devs themselves. At least it was the case for me.
ML is machine learning. It means they love teaching AI to overthrow the illuminati government lizard people. Can’t believe u didn’t know that, kinda embarrassing
Sees some use in Mali and for some websites about machine learning. Use is relatively rare elsewhere.
Oh no… It’s retarded.
This is some top-tier shitposting, in case you missed it.
Probably. I’m so used to brain damaged tankies on lemmy so pie’s law is in full effect.
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Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.
Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.
Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren’t left-leaning.
Not truly sctosmen either.
What part of “authoritarian state capitalism” is left wing to you?
I don’t know. I’m not a fucking tankie. They are masters at cognitive dissonance.
If they’re definitionally wrong, why call “no true Scotsman”?
To feel smart. Funnily enough, socialism really has it pretty hard trying to get off the ground. The US coups another nation every five years to install some corrupt dictator that’s more than willing to sell out his nation to US interests in exhchange for power. So being hunted down and utterly corrupted by the worlds biggest terrorist nation, calling socialism “never truly tried” is kiiiiiiiiiind of correct. There is a lot of social policies in Europe and those worl pretty well, though US interests and their bootlickers erode those, too.
Idk, just last week I overheard a report of an old communist whose life wishes were to visit Vietnam, Kuba and Russia.
and…?
They are, they’re just ignorant
I think I’m confused. I haven’t seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It’s right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I’ve never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I’ve seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.
The most support for China is basic materialist analysis: they’ve heavily invested in housing, high speed rail, electric car infrastructure, and green energy. Coincidentally: all rather related.
But that is generally the support associated with China: a materialist analysis, usually, if not always, regarding infrastructure.
Left and right is not a defined group, it’s a name and any group can pretend/think they belong to it.
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Pro politolog here
China*
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.
It means without Hong Kong.
Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and “Mainland China” is a whole lot less typing than “China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too”.
Hong kong also isn’t part of china
The official name of Taiwan’s government is Republic of China, and it’s the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao’s uprising.
So I’m not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.
Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it’s important for people to understand that they are two different countries.
Yeah, in colloquial usage, most people understand that China and Taiwan are two different countries and there’s no confusion over which one is which.
Sorry I only copied the title
You can still edit it.
Okay I edit it
I also read it to mean not HK. Is that not right?
Not HK and Hong Kong.
Also some people in Hainan will refer to the “mainland” as opposed to Hainan island.
It turns out words can be used in multiple ways. It’s not all about Taiwan.
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Guess they’re not tankies then.
Not tankie enough*
Leopards ate tankies’ faces!
I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don’t know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.
https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world
https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/
Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.
Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.
Not lemmygrad though, how odd
Lemmygrad hasn’t been spotted yet. When it is spotted, it will be blocked as well, like literally every social media site that reaches the authoritarians’ awareness.
The original post on lemmy.ml has been removed by the mods with this justification:
Removed Post lemmy.ml has been banned in China mainland reason: Not a question
Source: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost
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Ironic.
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Must be doing something right.
That’s my stance.
LMAO that’s hilarious
