Anyone else wondering?

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    2 years ago

    Signal had something good when it could simply be your default messaging app on your phone, and it’d transparently send either encrypted messages, or plain-text SMS. Now that they’ve removed SMS, they’ve just turned into a worse Whatsapp (because nobody is on it). Network effects are important in messaging apps.

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    Matrix is the federated alternative to Signal.

    However it would be cool to see Signal implementing their encryption into Matrix and turning Signal into a Matrix provider, becoming a federated messanger.

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      2 years ago

      I believe Matrix already supports olm which is the same encryption technique used by Signal. The main issue with Signal becoming federated is that in order to make the federation work, a lot of metadata will leak and that could be a cause for concern when using Signal as a private messenger for important things like whistleblowing, etc.

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    2 years ago

    Not a fan of giving my phone number to federate to every server.

    Session is like Signal but decentralised (like Tor, not like Fedi) and without the phone no requirement. That sounds better to me.

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    2 years ago

    All of the people recommending matrix don’t understand why signal is secure. Matrix offers the same level of end to end encryption as Facebook Messenger, but it’s federated so people who care more about federation than privacy like to misrepresent its safety

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      2 years ago

      Matrix offers the same level of end to end encryption as Facebook Messenger

      Can you please explain that in a bit more detail, for those of us who use these systems but aren’t up on the architecture?

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        2 years ago

        Facebook Messenger offers optional end to end encryption just like Matrix. Just like Matrix, the server knows who you’re talking to, what groups your in, who else is in those groups, how many messages you sent to which group, who’s messages you react to, etc. But the actual text of the message is technically encrypted so Facebook can’t respond to subpoenas for your messages. I use Facebook Messenger as an example because Facebook is (correctly) generally considered not private or safe.