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    Deep Space Nine is supposed to host up to 7000 lifeforms, but the infirmary is tiny and has three biobeds max.

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    It’s not a continuity error as such, but I’m a big fan of all the technologies that by rights should have completely upended galactic civilization but then just get forgotten.

    The Genesis device should be an appalling superweapon that would change the face of war.

    And then those missiles from Generations that can kill an entire solar system should, too.

    And the time on TNG that they stumbled on a weird transporter trick that could make it so no one would ever need to die of old age ever again.

    And the Tribble blood that cures death.

    And so forth.

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      Presumably every warp capable species would have the ability to construct a few thousand hydrogen bombs (or weapons even more powerful) so would have the capability of wiping out life on a planet if they wanted to. So the Genesis device wouldn’t be a thing that would change the face of war, the problem was that a crazy person had such a weapon.

      Though Star Trek is kinda hand wavy around nuclear weapons in general… maybe photon torpedoes are more powerful than an H-Bomb? But it doesn’t feel that way. At any rate, Starfleet, the Klingons, Romulans, etc. all have technology to wipe out a planet because we have that technology in the present day. They just don’t do that I guess? To me that’s the real continuity error.

      And the time on TNG that they stumbled on a weird transporter trick that could make it so no one would ever need to die of old age ever again.

      Another time a transporter accident led to a copy of Riker (with all of his memories) both on the ship and on the planet. You could recreate those conditions and create endless copies of people. The Federation wouldn’t do that because of morals and stuff, but the Dominion wouldn’t give a shit. They could have their best squad of Jem Hader stand on a transporter pad and beam down endless copies of them down onto a planet. They’re cloning people anyway, so why not take it to the next level?

      The transporter is just endless continuity problems. Shields are down, oh no they’re beaming over boarding parties! Why are they doing that instead of using the transporting the crew of the enemy ship into their brig (if they’re good guys) or into space (if they’re bad guys)?

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      Isnt the warp speed limit part of the in universe reason that Voyager has new variable nacelle geometry?

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        I had no idea they were related, but apparently they were (thanks 😉). But that too was soon retconned:

        According to comments by Michael and Denise Okuda, when mentioning of the speed limit was abandoned a few years after “Force of Nature”, it was assumed that newer ships, such as the USS Voyager and USS Defiant, had improved environmentally friendly warp drive systems, that did not cause damage to the spatial continuum.

        https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Variable_geometry_pylon

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          It’s technically not canon anyway, and I don’t really like it as an explanation, since we don’t see variable-geometry nacelles on other ships of the era.

          Best to assume they solved the subspace damage problem through some other means, IMO.

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      But what about TNG 7x09, the one where we learn that warp travel damages subspace and that a warp speed limit is the solution?

      That was an analogy for Global Warming. The government issued a big proclamation but never actually did any real action about it.

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    The 2009 movie. Just, like, the whole thing.

    (And I’m not even talking about differences between the JJ-verse and the “prime” timeline; I’m talking about shit not making any damn sense in the internal context of the plot. Kirk was a mutinous fuck-up cadet who should’ve been thrown out the airlock when Spock had the chance, not promoted straight from cadet to captain by the end of the movie!)

    • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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      This would be the same continuity in which magic villain blood is found to be the cure for actual death, and they use it once and then never speak of it again.

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      I contend that it is not actually missing, it’s just not visible from that perspective. When I recreate the shot in Google Earth only the extreme north tip of New Zealand is actually visible:

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        It’s all in past tense until he shows up in the flesh.

        “Emissary”: How about letting me cook dinner for you tonight? My father was a gourmet chef. I will make for you his famous aubergine stew.

        “A Man Alone”: Every night in my house, my dad insisted that we have supper together as a family. He would try out his new recipes on us. He used to call us his test tasters.

        “The Alternate”: When my father became ill, I can remember how small and weak he looked lying there in the bed. He’d been so strong, so independent. It always seemed to me there was nothing that he couldn’t do. But in the end, I realised that there was nothing that he could do, and nothing I could do to help him.

        “Paradise”: Well, my father was a chef. He grew all his own vegetables. My brothers and I were sent out to the gardens every day.

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        I think he refers to the first season of DS9 where it was never explicitly mentioned that Joseph Sisko is well and alive (but neither was the opposite). He first appeared in season 4. He just doesn’t exist before that.

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    The church in Discovery.

    I am convinced that they put it there without having an explanation yet, then forgot they did it when they made the explanation.

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      Ugh, Discovery just made no sense in a million ways. My (least) favorite is how Control was sentient AI like a century before Data was a thing, or even M-5. That and every time Section 31 was acknowledged as Starfleet black ops instead of a rogue agency of assholes.

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        Let’s not forget the part where they want to go in the future to stop control because they think they can’t destroy it, then control gets destroyed, then they go in the future anyway.

        Also, I don’t think any star trek depicted section 31 in a way that didn’t make the show worse, but Discovery really went the extra mile

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          I think DS9 did Section 31 right, as the bad guys to be foiled, as anathema to Starfleet’s ideals, but yeah every other show seems to miss the point.

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            I mean, they were still trying to show it as James Bond-cool (which I mean, works if you see that James Bond is pretty problematic, but most people don’t)… They were shown as a bit evil, but also as the “cool, edgy dudes that do what needs to be done”, but other shows managed to do worse somehow.

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              All I know is that Sisko, Bashir, and O’Brien all identify Section 31 as non-Starfleet assholes that need to be stopped at all costs. Discovery has Pike practically saluting Section 31 genocidal Empress Georgiou and revering the black badges in a way I’ll never forgive it for.