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Full sun and sunglasses? There’s no way the guy on the left can see shit on his screen.
They’ll be blind inside a month trying to work like that.
It’s because you’re a mouseclicker. I code for a living, i do everything in the cli, all i need to do to work on a sunny beach is increase the text size and invert the colors
laptop outside is fine but on the beach? why don’t you pour the sand in manually at home?
That glare makes it impossible to see too
If I’m ever envious of someone doing work in places where they should be relaxing, please kill me.
You must be someone who hates working from home, because home is the place where we should all feel relaxed, right? What about working in the garden? The garden is certainly a relaxation spot, but god forbid you get some rays of sunshine while you work.
I understand the desire to pity people who work at the beach. But then again, I pity anyone who ended up living near Silicon Valley. Think of all the money though!
That’s one extreme way to take the comment, I guess. I worked from home for a while and I think these return to office orders are stupid as hell, largely because going to the office needs unpaid commuting time, annoyances related to needing to bring a lunch, and it takes away your ability to do small chores and stuff during the work day that might be often impossible during the evening for one reason or another.
Look, if you want to work at the beach or whatever then go for it, but the idea that California is the “envy of nations” because people can do labour at a beach is insanity.
I remember in ~2000 someone was in the parking lot of my office at a picnic table on their laptop and people commented how “cool” that was.
I’ve noticed since then that IT people qualify anything that drives work into personal spaces as “cool”.
2012: Wow, you can hot spot to your blackberry and connect your laptop to the Internet from the ferry, when you used to just let the wind ruffle your hair during your commute? “Cool.”
2026: Wow AI can write 78% of your code so you can produce twice as much shitty code while you spend even more time at your desk then you used to, for less money? “Cool.”
Being on your laptop
outsideis a miserable experienceftfy
As a lifelong desktop PC user, laptops just feel claustrophobic 😅 Especially sucks without a mouse, fuck the trackpad.
I think it’s an excellent compromise for being a portable PC. If I’m going to university, to a study space or a lecture, a laptop is freaking fantastic.
Also all laptops universally have one killer feature that nearly no desktop PC has: a built-in UPS. If power goes out, the laptop just keeps chugging along on battery power, giving you an extra few hours of work.
It’s not my workstation of choice by any means, but I wouldn’t call it miserable. It’s fine.
Bro, people today prefer trackpad. Its fucking mindblowing. Ive met several IRL people that love trackpads and don’t own a mouse.
I almost guarantee I’m 10x faster at anything on a PC than them
You’re assuming these people are doing something useful, they could be dealing with Microslop licensing as their full time job. Which is definitely a full time job, its just not useful work in the broader sense.
Ha, true
I don’t own a mouse. I like the trackpad because I’m left handed and a mouse always felt weird to me left handed because schools in the 90s forced me to use it right handed.
So, uhh, are you good and comfortable at using the mouse with your right hand? If so you have no reason to use your left. I have a left-handed friend who has always exclusivity used his right for the mouse. Ain’t no law saying your mouse hand must be your writing hand. Not to mention the benefits: it’s the default setting on any system, and there are lots of great quality asymmetric mouses that only fit the right hand.
I’m not trying to change you, by all means if you like the trackpad more power to you. Just curious why you’d try to mouse with your left if you’ve already learned to use it with your right.
I am comfortable with it in my right hand but I have a tendency to click the buttons backwards. Trackpad is easier one finger left click 2 finger right click just seems more intuitive.
I prefer a trackpad while I work, and the reason is simple: Much less movement to switch from trackpad to keyboard than from mouse to keyboard. And much easier to land on the key you want without looking.
And I very much doubt you’d be faster than me with a mouse!
Trackpads give me handcramps very fast. Also if Trackpads were faster, gamers would use them.
A gamer does not need to switch from the mouse to the keyboard repeatedly. Plus, a gamer cares about precision, which obviously a trackpad lacks.
“Faster” standalone means nothing. Can you move the pointer faster with a mouse? Of course. But I don’t see most people flicking on their workstation.
In the context of this thread, “faster” refers to completing your tasks faster. And for that a trackpad beats a mouse if your job requires you to type a lot.
Makes sense!
The point of trackpads (and even more so of trackpoints) is that they’re faster to get to from typing position - you move your hand back a bit (or even just the index finger) instead of moving across the whole keyboard. That’s not something that would go high on the checklist when gaming - it’s usually one hand planted on WASD, the other on the mouse and hardly any going back and forth.
Amazingly, there is this nifty thing called a “port” that allows a mouse to be plugged into a laptop. It is pretty incredible technology. /s
I tend to vacillate myself depending on the noise of the environment vs the work at hand. If I need to spread out across a few monitors, dock it. If I just need to do some simple paperwork, portable. If I want to force no distractions, portable (as it is more difficult to see things when your screen real estate is reduced.)
Helps if you have good eyesight too, laptop UIs today are at clown magnification levels anymore.
But my laptop doesn’t have a PS/2 port :(
It’s kind of clunky, but Radio Shack has a Serial to PS/2 adaptor.
The Radio Shack by me has been closed for remodeling for a few years, though. Maybe you’d have better luck at Circuit City?
Amazingly, there is this nifty thing called a “port” that allows a mouse to be plugged into a laptop. It is pretty incredible technology. /s
Yes, I meant that it’s even worse when there’s no mouse plugged in, but I guess my phrasing wasn’t clear :)
I do most things on my laptop mouseless, or that is, trackpadless. It’s the best feeling ever. I seriously recommend it to anyone.
wait how does that work, keyboard-only?
Well, these guys aren’t working, as far as I’m concerned, if they can do it without bringing out a mouse and real keyboard and probably a second monitor. (My laptop bag is pretty heavy.) They can at best be checking emails.
Agreed.
If you can do your work on a 13" laptop with no mouse or external monitor without your productivity dropping off a cliff, you were never productive to begin with.
I can’t work on a big screen. I’m thriving on my laptop with my 3x3 virtual desktop grid, though.
Sun glare, sand, bad WiFi… yeah, it looks better than it feels 😭
My boss gave me a RTO, so I retired. Union Yes, Baby!
This only works, if your job is sitting and waiting for other people to do the work.
Or making PowerPoint slides full of LinkedIn lunatic lingo.
Toshiba used to sell a laptop (IIRC the model name was R500) back in like 2008 that had a mirror behind the screen, meaning that bright sunlight would be reflected back through the LCD and always respond to external lighting conditions no matter how bright. The image quality and color was shitty, but you could use it in the sun. Battery time was also extremely impressive.
The same thing would work with e-ink. It works fine in super bright sunlight. Unfortunately since it physically spins little balls with electromagnets the refresh rate is very slow compared to conventional screens.
interesting. most modern lcds have a shiny reflective layer behind the backlight for this reason, I wonder if they’re all modeled after toshibas design
Even if you have a high nits screen that laptop is gonna run hot in direct sunlight. Screens don’t exactly like that. Especially something like an OLED. It will degrade the screen faster.
Screens degrade? I’ve been using the same one for 10+ years and I bought it used for $20.
Yeah they degrade. Tech has improved a lot and they don’t degrade as fast as screens from the 2000’s but they still degrade. OLED more so than LCD. But if they degrade gradually and evenly you won’t really notice.
Note this doesn’t really happen to CRTs. Look I just want a modern CRT monitor.
Also doesn’t really happen to LCDs. It depends on the liquid crystal alignment technology to a degree and the backlight, but realistically, an LCD will not fail without operator error.
It’s the brightness and lack of cooling with my M2 MacBook Air. I have that, my iPhone, and my Galaxy S10. I’m on Lemmy on the S10. Even that isn’t as bright as my iPhone, but the typing is ten billion percent better.
I spent all my childhood life growing up on a dairy farm. Worked from home, got to do various types of exciting manual labor and operate somewhat dangerous machinery, AND I got to work outside no matter the weather.
So suck on that California. You ain’t that special.
I’m dark mode all the way… except in direct sunlight.
Nah mate screen is awesome outside except most people are stuck on macbooks that are simply unusable due to extreme screen glare.
Can’t tell if you are describing a screen type or are Aussie
Nah everything is fine except there are people I don’t like doing things I don’t like…
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, yeah trying to work in a park is refreshing until some dumbass drives up with his music shaking the very earth
