I’m deeply sorry. If it’s any consolation, it will eventually happen to everybody.
Or at least everybody that didn’t see the light and adopt The Penguin… But let’s leave religion to another time.
BTW, Arch is awesome.
( actually, i use Manjaro. but it’s based on arch. so that still counts, right?)
so that still counts, right?
Still counts. You now have to say you use arch every hour, otherwise you’ll implode.
NGL kinda want to use arch just so I can say I use it. I feel left out.
I used to use Arch like them, then I took an arrow to the knee.
I chose the distro for the meme, nothing else.
Well, at least I don’t have to talk about it as much as I have to update the dang thing.
manjaro has had a lot of drama and problems in the past and i don’t think it’s really a good distro to use. they forgot to renew their ssl certificate multiple times, they break software due to their weird update strategy (they use custom repos which hold back updates mostly arbitrarily for a week) which breaks dependencies and sometimes breaks the entire system, and their gui package manager once overwhelmed the AUR with traffic.
a better alternative with an easy gui installer would be endeavouros or cachyos. endeavour is basically manjaro except competent and with regular arch packages. cachy has its own repos (in order to build specialized versions of packages), but it keeps in sync with the regular arch repos.
though of course if manjaro is working for you that’s great and any amount of linux use is good. manjaro is just a bit temperamental. i also understand that some people can’t just distrohop, for example because they don’t have a separate home partition, or not enough space to copy important files elsewhere before wiping their partitions.
Oh did they renew their ssl certs so their repos work now?
Lol I cannot understand how anyone can trust those idiots at this point.
False. My machine officially isn’t upgradeable to W11 cause it’s too old. Also, it’s possible that LTSC doesn’t even suggest to upgrade.
Isn’t ltsc frozen in features with only security updates or something?
Yeah, that’s what I meant with my second sentence, I’m just not 100% sure there’s no upgrade path.
Don’t leave us hanging. What distro?
Hannah Montana
Half a dozen of them have real cost/benefits trade-offs that make preaching for a single one harmful. The other thousand are just completely useless waste of time not worth mentioning.
Pro tip: If you must use Windows, pick Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. Most things still run on it, and that baby’s got no user-facing slop and five more years of support in it. Mass Grave dot dev.
+1 massgrave. Got the extended support for my regular W10 pro. After that, it’s going to be debian if - fingers crossed - nothing breaks. It’s a 6700K build.
Going to Linux is probably the more sustainable solution (I ended up on Ubuntu and my 4130 is happy enough) but you apparently might be able to convert-in-place to the IoT edition, if that’s the route you’d prefer to go down.
I put Windows 11 on it’s own hard drive, so it couldn’t corrupt the rest of the system.
thats my setup, thats the most tolerable version ATM
My boss at work told it to download thinking that he would have a choice to install in when he wanted. Now he understands what a virus is.
I have to use it, it’s the corporate setup. Every day I envy plumbers who unclog toilets.
ZorinOS is nice to Windows users if you want ui similarity
I installed Zorin on a second hand thinkcentre yesterday to test out, and I really like it. I use Mint on my laptop, and I’m pretty satisfied with that. I’m evaluating both of them as a permanent replacement for windows 11 on my main PC and it’s down to those two.
That happened to me, but I’m happy with CachyOS now for most things. I can’t believe how much it a step down 11 was from 10 though, it was astounding. Worse than 7 to 8, even.
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Downgrade your PC to avoid having this issue. Follow me for more terrible tech tips you should never have to do in the first place.
Poser! A real Roman would just fall on his sword.
Really pissed because about a year ago in february it upgraded without my informed consent and I never noticed until something else bad happened. You can only downgrade if you notice within a week.
It’s real fuckin insidious, I had already reformatted my PC once too recently so I juuuust kinda toughed it out.
Anyways, they keep everything same-ish which prevents you from noticing they changed your whole OS which should be illegal.
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You can rollback easily. I’ve upgraded to Windows 11 a while ago and after 48 hours, I rolled back to 10. But this is how I will feel like in October.
And no, Linux is NOT an option for me, at least for my main PC. My laptop gets Linux, as there I don’t do stuff, that isn’t running under Linux. But I still hope that Microslop does something good and fix their shit.
What’s limiting you to windows?
First would be programming and second gaming. Not all my games I own, do work with ProtonDB and with programming, well parts we use, don’t work with Linux. We tried. Its probably just figuring out the right settings but spending several hours tweaking everything, in the hope to get it properly running, isn’t worth it, when it all runs on Windows out of the box.
I’m surprised you’ve managed to find a way to program that doesn’t work far better on Linux than on Windows. I ended up having to use WSL at work because Windows was so obnoxious (and they don’t allow anything else on the intranet).
Yes, the software I use is heavily connected within Windows. Old versions where developed for MacOS and Linux, but they dumped that for quite some time. They even use sub .NET5 as framework. Even our customers are pissed with Windows 11, as they now all upgrade or already upgraded. For SSL key stuff, I do use WSL as well, as I couldn’t really got it working under Windows.
When you really want to know what pain is, try working with their admin panels. I did learn some basic Windows Server stuff but their admin panels… all Windows OSes are childs play. I would rather use Windows 8 (not 8.1) or Vista, as this shit. And the joke is, we don’t use the complicated stuff. Office, Visual Studio and Teams (well we do need some meeting software and if we have Teams, why not using it?). Office is a requirement, as our document/archive/CMS system only has an plugin for Word under Windows. We tried switching, but outside the IT department, no one, even the CEO, took some time to test alternatives, that they feel comfortable to use. For building our software, I actually want to look if there is a better solution but no time and a massive backlog. We need to argue a lot with our CEO, when we mention we change some of the operation stuff.
But hey, there is some good things. I convinced the company to use a Linux Server for some stuff. Inside the IT, we can and do switch stuff, when it benefits our workflow but outside, nobody is interested, even though it could make stuff so much easier. We did installed a test system and gave everyone access but nobody tested it.
But what about using a separate computer for work and leaving your main pc running Linux?
At work I have a win11 laptop that the company provided, and I just connect to it via RDP from my Linux desktop. I only use the laptop for anything that needs the mandated windows-only VPN. Everything else I run on my desktop, even slack, as things are much smoother locally than on a win11 craptop.
Fear and ignorance
