• baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de
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    15 days ago

    I’m autistic and have an oversized amygdala but that doesn’t stop me from being leftist. I just feel compassion for everyone human. Still struggling with the compassion for animals that I eat.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      15 days ago

      ironically i fear the SHIT out of right wingers, because they seem to actively want me to suffer before i die, for the crime of not being able to have a job

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          Which is itself a form of suffering, imagine the humanity they miss out on and what you’d be without it. Liberalism and fascism are ideologies that subsist on the concept that there is an imaginary amount of violence that can be inflicted outward to relieve internal suffering.

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      Veganism is my unattended moral compromise. I am positive that future generations will look at us and our factory farming and, aghast, see us as the monsters as we are - much like we look back at slaveowners, even those who were against the institution at the time.

      Since I am not living in or near the wild and not hunting for my own food, it is clear to me that veganism is the only real moral choice, and yet I still participate.

      I am complicit in this delightful supreme pizza and complicit in this breaded chicken sandwich.

      • AlexLost@lemmy.world
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        Factory farming is the problem, not animal husbandry. If the whole world went vegan, do you think the vegetables we eat would not be altered to better serve yield rather than quality? Do you think pesticides would not be used in staggering levels? Do you think vegetables aren’t alive so it’s okay to eat them? If it doesn’t have a face, it’s cool to eat? Life is sustained by consuming other life, the world over. I agree that industrial farming is disgusting and cruel, but not just to animals.

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            14 days ago

            Not to the levels you can expect if it is all industrialized. You are correct though. A strawberry from 50 years ago tastes a million times better than the monstrosities we buy today as a quick example.

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          15 days ago

          Trust me, the more explorations I do on the nature of consciousness, the more I wrestle with all of that.

          I don’t believe that it is inherently wrong to kill in order to eat. But as a species we don’t. Which isn’t to say there aren’t members of our species who very much do still need to kill to eat.

          But I don’t need to kill to eat, and I’ve outsourced that killing so it feels like more of an abstraction than it is. I can at the very least acknowledge this.

          • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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            15 days ago

            Which I think is almost worse… think about concentration/extermination camps (which I think our animal industry is basically)

            And it’s perfectly healthy to be vegan (maybe even more healthy at this point when done right, than meat consumption).

            My main reason though for that is less moral than just wanting to be less wasteful, i.e. meat is just inefficient. I predict that we at some point will move past meat consumption, it’s just not necessary, even when considering taste…

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        15 days ago

        I feel your shame friend. We have so little opportunity to do the right thing, and we still fail.

    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      I feel bad for the forks and spoons in the drawer which didn’t get used that day… My amygdala must be an absolute fuckin’ HOG

    • bobo@lemmy.ml
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      15 days ago

      Still struggling with the compassion for animals that I eat.

      Drop acid and watch Samsara