Amazing
This begs for a response by Robert Ricardo, offering an analgesic cream for those burns. 😂
Even a dermal regenerator is going to leave scars with that burn
Flawless, as always from the Captain.
Online attacks against an actor on a Star Trek show is not very Star Trek philosophy. World needs more Spock’s and less Kahn’s.
For the record, if anyone reading this is that sort of person, you can save us a lot of time and just go away now.
I feel like calling Captain Ake “mumbles” is right up there with calling Picard “baldy”. I get the feeling we’re dealing with the kind of people who think one of those things is okay and the other isn’t.
It’s pretty stupid to pick on Holly Hunter for her trademark.
Even Kahn respects his enemies! These cave dwellers need to fuck off.
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The fact that this is happening is a disgrace to those who behave this way: you don’t embody IDIC.
I haven’t seen STA yet, but it seems like, with a few exceptions, the most recent Star Trek has always been controversial, since The Next Generation. I feel like Enterprise deserved it the most, and SNW escaped most of it. Discovery probably got it the worst? Though TNG was by far the least deserving of it.
Which I find kinda surprising, since I would call SNW fairly “woke” if you actually pay attention to the show. Maybe it’s just because it’s a male captain set in the TOS era, and it’s a more traditional trek show?
SNW is a good balance. Discovery on the other hand, was way too emotional for me. Where is STSA on the crying-every-other-scene scale?
I found Discovery the same way, it’s the only trek series I couldn’t make it through.
Picard suffered from bad writing unfortunately. Season 3 cashed in on nostalgia and I appreciate it for that, but the first 2 seasons were very meh.
Starfleet academy is great though, IF you’re ok with a show targeted to young adults. If you’re not ok with that, the episodes will be very hit and miss. The most recent episode was fantastic, once you get through the 3 minute long sex scene it opened with. Even that does serve a purpose though to show the bond that’s developed between two chars.
Oh, I don’t talk about Picard. Too much WTF.
STSA feels like a blend of Lower Decks and Discovery to me. I also had issues with Discovery (though it got better after the time jump) but have been enjoying Academy each week.
The SAM episode was a little meh, personally, but I like that they’re dealing with the shorter season format and still doing episodes based around each character.
I dont like DIS because it does not feel very trek to me with the ugly klingons and the overall dark stories and characters. Also (like PIC) its very storyline so i cant really just jump into an episode and be happy (or unhappy, whatever story the episode is)
On the other side i think SNW is what should have been the first series after the pause after ENT. Its hopeful, most episodes can be watched alone and it still has a background story like VOY. And like every trek its woke.
I think that PIC would have gotten a similar (smaller?) shitstorm compared to DIS if that was the first after the pause. LD maybe too but less for the quality and more because its animated. And PRO for feeling more nicelodeon than trek (or rather a mix)
If DIS came just later than others it would have probably been either more liked or at least ignored like a lot ignore PIC or Short Treks
IMO “woke” is a red herring when it comes to criticism of newer star trek. Some people hate things for this reason, but it obscues a more interesting discussion.
The real dimensions of value are the writing, the vision, what each series considers “action”, etc. I think it’s a distinction between what you’d expect from a Star Trek movie and a Star Trek TV show. They’re for different audiences, and I think Discovery, STA are going for a much wider market appeal (in varying degrees) and it changes the narrative structure, pacing, etc. I think they’re exploring the audience space with variations on Star Trek themes to grow the francise, and sometimes it’s to the detriment of what some people like about Star Trek - and sometimes it brings in new people.
I like Star Trek to be ethics porn about IDIC being more powerful than raw power. About the value of an education, team work, structure, and trust. I like it when the most tense action scene is a walk down a hallway - but I also like a bit of space pew pew sometimes. The new shows alienate me when they focus too much on physical action, individual exceptionalism, and a grimdark future.
Discovery probably “got it the worst” because it came out during peak gamergate-era politics. Online fandoms were weaponized and radicalized into right-wing culture warriors. Discovery is easily the least preachy of any Star Trek series but because it had a black woman in a leading role it became an obvious target for ragebaiters to make stuff up about.
it is also the series that had to define what Trek was in current times. It took it a few seasons and the later shows used a lot of that lessons. it might had a lot of problems, but I dont think it was for a lack of trying.
Trying too much (and all at once) in my opinion!
Discovery definitely feels like it, especially since you have people still arguing quite animatedly about how it’s not Star Trek, and might have Ruined Star Trek Forever, though I would rather imagine much of it to be recency and accessibility more so than much else.
The other shows are a bit less accessible, even if they are newer, since CBS moved it onto their streaming service, and off of Netflix, whereas Discovery aired on Netflix around a time when Netflix was one of the bigger streaming platforms out there, and more people who aren’t as into Star Trek or other CBS properties might encounter it incidentally.
But for the most part, every single successor to Star Trek has always been controversial, and deemed to have ruined it forever, though most of it abates when the next show comes around, and is then deemed to have ruined Star Trek forever.
Though TNG was by far the least deserving of it.
I actually wonder about that. Most of the complaints, like the ones about Stewart being a shakespearean actor who wouldn’t be able to handle the rigours of serious television, or being bald were nonsense, but there was a lot of good reasons to complain about early TNG. A fair chunk of the early episodes weren’t very consistently good.
We know it to be better in hindsight, but if The Next Generation had started today, and not only is the second episode a rehash of a Star Trek (1966) episode, but the fourth was Code of Honour? I would also be inclined to criticise it for being quite bad. There’s a good reason why a lot of the advice for people watching TNG is to stick around until Season 3, or start from Season 3, since that’s when it gets better.
Kate Mulgrew is awesome.
Seriously. I want to be Kate Mulgrew when I grow up and I’m a fully fledged adult
It’s part of a general problem where old trek is basically competence porn (everyone is ridiculously competent at their jobs) while in new Trek everyone kinda acts like a teenager. Maybe it’s a desperate attempt to appeal to a younger audience (I don’t think that actually works tho), but it certainly doesn’t appeal to fans of older Trek.
It definitely breaks immersion to have characters that have serious jobs acting like teenagers.
This is literally about people who don’t know how to do the job, being taught how to do the job.
How old do you have to be to stop swallowing your comm badge? Aren’t they all adults in the show?
I thought the captain was the one that supposed to teach them how to do the job? Why is she acting like a teenager? How are they supposed to learn how to stop acting like teenagers and take their jobs seriously if the captain is acting this way too?
Yeah it’s just a show, but characters in a show should be acting as if the world they’re in is real. It breaks immersion when they don’t.
There’s a general fear of being genuine with characters in a lot of shows and movies, and it’s gotten really old. It’s really cringey at this point.
It would be nice to have a show about people on a spaceship acting like people that are really on a spaceship that have serious jobs. It’s boring to have yet another show where it’s just people acting like youtube influencers on some spaceship sets. People that actually like vapid youtube influencers will only just watch clips from these shows, so what’s the point of trying to appeal to that crowd?
That’s when I cashed in my mental chips.
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I like star trek starfleet academy for the most part. What I don’t like about the show is that I can’t watch it with my kids yet.
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I haven’t watched STA. Is the captain really lounging in the chair and going barefoot?
Yes, but in context it’s not a big deal. A lot of it is contrasting her with her peer, the chancellor of the war college, who is uptight. Ultimately, she’s less military commander, or even explorer, and more chancellor of a school full of students and in that capacity it makes more sense to generate a relaxed atmosphere. When the situation calls for it, she can be serious as well.
She just has her own style, but people want to be negative because she’s not Picard-ing hard enough or some dumb shit.
On the contrary it is a big deal, it makes Ake extremely endearing and likeable.
I don’t even know the premise for the show… If the captain of a flagship was lounging in the chair, I would lose lock pretty fast. Apparently this is an academy and she is more like a professor?
I encourage you to watch it and form your own opinion (just make sure to get past the first ten minutes of the pilot, the tone shifts dramatically).
Captain Ake runs the Academy and commands the Academy ship, the Athena, which is used to do more hands on training but isn’t the flagship by any stretch. She’s more like a principal than a professor. The other main characters are cadets, with some strong supporting characters too.
IMO it’s the first live action Trek show in the new era to come out firing on all cylinders and it’s great to see.
The Academy is a fully-functional starship, so she’s both the captain and the chancellor. She’s 500 years old, is a bit of a hippy, and is happy to lounge around when they’re not facing a crisis.
Jimmmy Kirk lounged around when there was a crisis so I don’t know what these people are upset about
Riker happily slapped his ass down in the weapons console so he could chat up the prettiest subordinate on duty. Not sure why we’re suddenly supposed to be pretending Trek ever maintained a stern and solemn work environment.
It’s so odd how these criticisms are only directed at women…
There you go, accusing people of being sexiest and racist just because they have a meltdown every time some piece of media prominently features a woman or person of colour. I’m sure it’s just a highly predictable coincidence.
Just remember, Star Trek ships don’t have seat belts. Gonna be fun when someone slams on the brakes and Captain slouchy goes flying out of her chair, across the freshly waxed floor, and into the viewscreen. At least the nextgen crew knew to put carpet on the floors.
oh hey its the guy from the article
She’s a Lanthanite https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Lanthanite They tend to have certain eccentricities for obvious reasons.
I like the captain. The show is alright; I think I’m too old to be the target audience but that’s ok. Seems to be directed at teens.
Every scene is so busy and glossy. The robots going around bear an uncanny resemblence to the Star Wars prequels (“it’s so dense; every single frame has so many things going on”). The teen angst and romance doesn’t exactly fit into what star trek means to me, but we did get a bit of that here and there in earlier series. Like in Discovery, IMO there’s too much focus on exceptional individuals and less on teamwork. To me it seems like it’s trying to be many things at once. Star Wars, Marvel, and Harry Potter mixed up in a Star Trek setting. I’m a bit sad we aren’t pretending Discovery was a bad dream, but I can live with it.
… but, there is some star trek here, and I like those parts.
My thoughts exactly… I don’t think this show is for me, TBH…
I started viewing Academy through the lens of a YA show more than a flagship Trek series and that really helped me form a different opinion of it being quite fun. I like that it doesn’t take itself seriously like SNW has mastered and I think Ake and her XO are the best parts of the show for sure. The stressed tf out military Chancellor is pretty hilarious too.
My only real concerns, with most of Kurtzman shows, is the inconsistent writing. Some episodes are fantastic, and you can tell there’s talent in the writing room like SAM’s episode, but I feel like too often a lot of the plots just rely too heavily on who screams the most at each other and odd tangents.
I also just can’t really get behind the fact that the Federation would abandon any of its planets, much less a founding member. That being said, having the capital be on Betazed is totally a Federation move I love it. Bringing back the MACOs really feels forced and an illogical choice for the Federation to do as well. I think it could’ve worked just as easily if they had the rivalry between a more amped up Security and Science/Medical imo.
Despite all that, I’m still very happy to keep watching and enjoying the show. Ultimately I’m kinda glad it takes place in the 32nd century as its kinda a soft version of the alternate Kelvin timeline. I’d really love to see some new post-Dominion War shows imo.
