• cuchi@startrek.website
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        Not suprised MAGA fans maybe thinks The Boys is “based” and “redpilled” in the case of Homelander.

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      Even if we filter out the United States, Academy is sitting at a sub 5/10 rating world wide.

      If you call the MAGA crtisicms what you want, but after the fact there are plenty of legit ones remaining.

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        Are you seriously suggesting that IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes weren’t review bombed globally?

        Any rating that has a distribution of 38% 1/10s has no credibility whatsoever, zilch.

        And the alleged non US ratings aren’t vettable.

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        No one here is complaining about legitimate criticisms.

        (But also an aggregated numeric value is not a criticism at all, it’s a reductive metric that means very little and I don’t understand why people ascribe so much value to these things).

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          For the life of me, I’ll never understand the mind of a viewer who gives a shit about aggregated rating scores like that.

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          But also an aggregated numeric value is not a criticism at all

          How’s that? If 10 of your coworkers rated your job performance as 5/10; would you think that’s not a critical indicator of a failing performance?

          How about viewer count, shall we go look that up?

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            It could be a terrible indicator of your actual performance, if five of your coworkers rated you a ten honestly, but the other five rated you a zero because they hated the Black Lives Matter sign in your cubicle.

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              Yeah and if it had absolutely nothing to do with the black lives matter sign, and the person inserted the black lives matter sign as a defense, then what is it?

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                Then it is still meaningless if 5 rate you a 10 and 5 a 0. What would this rating say about you?

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            How’s that? If 10 of your coworkers rated your job performance as 5/10; would you think that’s not a critical indicator of a failing performance?

            No. I’ve never been evaluated in such a fashion, and I’d resent it if I were. I think my boss should have the competence to judge my work on its own merits. I judge the shows I watch the same way.

            I’m confused as to your purpose here. You seem to be arguing that the show is bad because it’s unpopular. Is that how you form all your opinions? Popular vote, no need to think for yourself?

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              You seem to be arguing that the show is bad because it’s unpopular.

              The premis of the thread seems to be that the show is getting review bombed because of MAGA. I pointed out that filtering out the United States still gives abysmally low scores.

              If you look at viewer count (low) and review bombs (high), it seems to indicate that the producers are wildly out of touch with what the majority of the Star Trek audience is about.

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                The premis of the thread seems to be that the show is getting review bombed because of MAGA.

                What? No. The video OP posted was talking about specific nonsense positions put forward by specific nonsense people. I don’t believe it mentioned view counts or review aggregators. You’re the one who brought those up.

                You seem very concerned with how popular this show is. To the point where, when I asked you if popularity is all you base your opinions on, all you could do is loop around to trying to convince me that that this show is unpopular. I guess that’s my answer.

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                  The video OP posted was talking about specific nonsense positions put forward by specific nonsense people.

                  Which might not be stated but I feel is a defensive response to the negative reviews.

                  Is this video about MAGA response?

                  Are the negative reviews most likely from MAGA style viewers?

                  Yes? Then the two are absolutely connected.

                  You seem very concerned with how popular this show is.

                  I’ve answered this multiple times. Low viewship and high review bombs clearly indicate a disconnect between production and what’s expected by the audience. Sure they can produce whatever they want, but if Ford Motors starts producing coffee, then don’t be surprised when their customer base says “WTF, we don’t want this, we never asked for this”.

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        Eh, TNG had a rough start too, but became awesome. Note that it took two plus seasons to become consistently good.

        Academy has lots of rough spots, especially in the writing, but it is not irredeemable. It just needs time to find its tone and audience.

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          It just needs time to find its tone and audience.

          I agree with what you said but I’m kind of confused about this… Like the audience is there, its been there for 30 years. Why would you want to find a new one.

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            Not every show appeals to every Trek fan.

            Just as Enterprise didn’t appeal to me, so Academy won’t to others. But if the show goes on long enough it may attract those trekkers who find appeal in a semi-angsty drama among a college age cast in a progressive academic setting.

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        The alt right is a global movement.

        The 1’s are just there to review bomb, and a lot of the 10’s probably to increase the rating. If you look at the other ratings, the bell curve looks to peak somewhere between 7 and 8.

        It is polarizing. An average rating does not represent this.

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    I only got to know her videos after watching the 4 h dissection of SNW season 3, but her analyses (at least the ones I have seen so far) are very much on point. I love it. Far better content than that alt-right outrage about “pronoun Torpedoes” and “phasers set on woke”

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    Is the first chud in the picture “the critical drinker”. If so fuck that guy. There’s a pretty good parody channel that is pretty funny. Boozed banter is the channel:

    https://youtu.be/rD56SbPAUDk

    I know it’s parody, but it really captures the stupidity of some of these people making videos like that that are not a parody.