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    2 months ago

    Oh shit, a balanced, nuanced take on a complex issue. Quick, get the Americans out of of here, they won’t be able to handle this.

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    You mean the democratic socialist, an inherently anti-authoritarian party, is calling out authoritarians?

    Is it going to be news when he condems Xixing Ping and Putin and Netanyahu, and the Iranian Shah, and Saudi Royal family, and well you get the picture.

    Fuck authority that doesn’t earn it.

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    For decades, many left-leaning writers and speakers in the United States have felt obliged to establish their credibility by indulging in anticommunist and anti-Soviet genuflection, seemingly unable to give a talk or write an article or book review on whatever political subject without injecting some anti-Red sideswipe. The intent was, and still is, to distance themselves from the Marxist-Leninist Left.

    Adam Hochschild, a liberal writer and publisher, warned those on the Left who might be lackadaisical about condemning existing communist societies that they “weaken their credibility” (Guardian, 5/23/84). In other words, to be credible opponents of the cold war, we first had to join in cold war condemnations of communist societies. Ronald Radosh urged that the peace movement purge itself of communists so that it not be accused of being communist (Guardian, 3/16/83). If I understand Radosh: To save ourselves from anticommunist witchhunts, we should ourselves become witchhunters.

    Purging the Left of communists became a longstanding practice, having injurious effects on various progressive causes. For instance, in 1949 some twelve unions were ousted from the CIO because they had Reds in their leadership. The purge reduced CIO membership by some 1.7 million and seriously weakened its recruitment drives and political clout. In the late 1940s, to avoid being “smeared” as Reds, Americans for Democratic Action (ADA), a supposedly progressive group, became one of the most vocally anticommunist organizations.

    The strategy did not work. ADA and others on the Left were still attacked for being communist or soft on communism by those on the Right. Then and now, many on the Left have failed to realize that those who fight for social change on behalf of the less-privileged elements of society will be Red-baited by conservative elites whether they are communists or not. For ruling interests, it makes little difference whether their wealth and power is challenged by “communist subversives” or “loyal American liberals.” All are lumped together as more or less equally abhorrent.

    Michael Parenti, Blackshirts and Reds, 1997.

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        Sometimes people just spout the same exact bullshit you’ve heard a thousand times before, and only get hold of new opinions every blue moon. Especially the far-right, which now tries to use disdain towards artists to covertly push censorship while pretending to care about “freedom of speech” (read: ability of saying slurs without any negative consequences).

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    yes those dirty brown people in south america can’t do socialism right when its being sieged by the US!

    how telling of mr. mamdani.

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        i did.

        the US didn’t “make it worse”. the US is the one creating these bad conditions, and it’s about to make things worse for south america.

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        you are at least aware venezuela and cuba are in the gutter because of US blockades, not their leadership, right?

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          US blockades are responsible for their financial crises, not for them arresting journalists and dissenters. Also, the quote in the screenshot explicitly states that the US only made things worse.

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            should we not arrest far-right traitors and criminals against humanity? i WISH they where shutting fascists up as hard as libs think they do.

            is that why you guys let trump run for president (and win) twice?

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              Yeah, we should. Never said anything against that. Also never let Trump run for president, as I am not American, nor am I a liberal.

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                you are arguing like you are both. the last thing we need is more imperialist war, or any more cia talking points from unsuspecting libs.

                i understand why he would adopt the bothsides viewpoint, but it disgustingly hinges on the impending doom the us will bring to the venezuelan people with “maduro” and “democracy” as an obvious excuse. an old one at that.

                like they care about anything but oil and other natural resources. a “socialist” saying this precisely now is a red flag.

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                  He literally says US interventionism hasn’t done any good. How are you interpreting this as him wanting to intervene in their affairs?
                  You can criticize a government without wanting to overthrow them.