• mumblerfish@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    In the top one you will never actually kill an infinite number of people, just approach it linearly. The bottom one will kill an infinite amount of people in finite time.

    Edit: assuming constant speed of the train.

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    4 months ago

    I pull the lever, if the cart goes over the real numbers it will instantly kill an infinite amount of people and continue killing an infinite amount of people for every moment for the rest of existence.

    If I pull the lever a finite amount of people will die instantly and slowly over time tending twords infinity but due to the linear nature of movement it would never actually reach Infinity even if there are an infinite number of people tied to the track a finite amount is all that could ever die.

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    3 months ago

    Use the fact that a set of people corresponding to the real numbers are laying in a single line to prove that the real numbers are countable, thus throwing the mathematics community into chaos, and using this as a distraction to sabotage the trolley and save everybody.

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    4 months ago

    The first one, because people will die at a slower rate.

    The second one, because the density will cause the trolley to slow down sooner, versus the first one where it will be able to pick up speed again between each person. Also, more time to save people down the rail with my handy rope cutting knife.

  • OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Bottom has infinite density and will collapse into a black hole killing everyone, and destroying the tram and lever.

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      4 months ago

      Ah, so now Schwarzschild is driving the trolley!
      Or maybe he’s coming to stop the trolley!
      Or maybe Feynman is coming, to renormalize the infinities!
      I really don’t know anymore! Aleph nought, Aleph omega…
      go away, come again some other… perhaps infinite… day.

  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    In the top case has it been arbitrarily decided to include space in between the would-be victims? Or is the top a like number line comparison to the bottom? Because if thats the case it becomes relevant if there is one body for every real number unit of distance. (One body at 0.1 meter, and at 0.01 meter, at 0.001, etc)

    If so then there’s an infinite amount of victims on the first planck length of the bottom track. An infinite number of victims would contain every possible victim. Every single possible person on the first plank length. So on the next planck length would be every possible person again.

    Which would mean that the bottom track is actually choosing a universe of perpetual endless suffering and death for every single possible person. The top track would eventually cause infinite suffering but it would take infinite time to get there. The bottom track starts at infinite suffering and extends infinitely in this manner. Every possible version of every possible person dying, forever.

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    4 months ago

    I mean, the bottom. The trolley simply would stop, get gunked up by all the guts and the sheer amount of bodies so close together. Checkmate tolley.

  • missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    you know, I’m not sure you can have an uncountably infinite number of people. so whatever that abomination is I’ll send the trolley down its way. it’s probably an SCP.

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    4 months ago

    Top case is not the smallest infinite; going for prime number would save a lot of time for a lot of people before they die