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People with hip replacements can walk again for years afterwards. This is not normal.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes
While this may sound reasonable at first glance, it is only true most of the time. Sometimes a minute contains 59 or 61 seconds, even in Africa.
This is known as a leap second, named after Usain Bolt leaping over the finish line a second faster than everybody else
Einstein turbo-rolling in his grave, about to bore a hole through the earth to come and spank you
The rotational inertia of Einstein boring through the planet is responsible for leap seconds.
In Africa, height depends on how tall you are
Elevation (really the force of gravity) has an effect on time, so that’s technically only true at sea level.
If we’re including time dilation in this, so does velocity. This means that the velocity from earth’s rotation that you gain with elevation counteracts the loss in gravity to some extent (I don’t know what the total is, I can’t be fucked doing the maths). It also means that latitude effects time dilation because the equator is moving faster. This means that 60 seconds in south Africa is not exactly the same as a minute at the equator.
Antibodies are LITERALLY the point. It’s the mechanism by which our immune system identifies pathogens and triggers an immune response to them. If they diminish, your immune system is slower to respond and less effective at doing so. If they’re gone, it’s as if your immune system has never seen the pathogen before and has to adapt from zero again. Vaccines are a way to arm you with those antibodies without as much risk either from genuine infection or your immune system killing you in the attempt to figure out how to kill the new pathogen. You want the antibodies. They keep you healthier.
TL;DR: Vaccine=Antibodies=Good
That doesn’t sound scary at all now that you say it that way.
Please make it scary again so I can fear it and believe it.
Don’t worry. The people who were really scared never stopped. They didn’t get their vaccinations (education) and are susceptible to all kinds of infections (bullshit).
Microplastics are found in significantly larger numbers within the bodies of anyone living today than in people who died hundreds of years ago. Living without microplastics is lethal.
More people die by swimming in water than by swimming in gas.
Ban water!Hydro-haterz
As a professional fartographer, is that your official fartographical ANALysis?
Peer reviews of my research accuse my paper of circling the subject area. Once grant funding was removed and I was pushed out, I had to shit or get off the pot, so you may find my data sets complete even though I wasn’t able to fully finish identifying correlation/causation. It’s not exactly inconclusive; it’s more that the overall analysis was open but whole.
So, the research does support my claims, even though some have accused me of being full of crap.
poop
I came up with an analogy for vaccines that I’m thinking might actually penetrate the think skulls of some of these motherfuckers. If you agree, please feel free to use it… It goes like this:
When soldiers are preparing for their life in the service, what do they do? Stand around with their thumbs in their asses waiting for an enemy to attack? No. They train. They train day and night. They train until they have all of the maneuvers and tactics burned into their brains.
They use guns and tanks to defend.
So for defense, most would agree that the soldiers doing the fighting need two main things: training and equipment.
This is the same for your immune system. The equipment that your body needs to mount a good defence comes in the form of vitamins, minerals, and most importantly, calories to keep everything operating as good as it can.
Vaccines are the other side of that equation. They’re the training regimen for your immune system. It’s the practice run before going into a live-fire situation.
Vaccines, in and of themselves, can’t do shit to stop you from getting an infection, or a disease. That’s not what vaccines do. They only train the soldiers of your immune system to recognize and effectively attack the enemy. Without them, your immune system soldiers will take longer to react to a threat because it will simply take longer to recognise it and attack/eliminate it.
That’s it.
Just show them this comic
Not bad. Grabbing them right by their military worship.
This is exactly what I’m thinking.
Thank you.
Only error is he’s talking about defense, while they invariably do offense against countries not bowing to their wishes
I tried using analogies to explain that I need antidepressants just like people need medicine for diabetes or blood pressure and my mother said I need just need to wear some necklace to fights the evil spirits and that chemicals are bad blahh blahh I just… 🤦♂️
You can’t fight conservatives with logic, and when there are crazies using mainstream media to amplify their craziness, conspiracy theories and spiritualism seems even more legitimte to them, they think that science and spirialtualisn are on equal footing and each is equally valid. 🤦♂️🤷♂️ (yea I used the facepalm emoji twice in one comment, because emphasis is needed)
P.S. For context, my parents are not your typical white American christians in the deep south that you normally hear about online, if you think its just that stereotypical demographic beliving in weird things; they are agnostic theists (not sure what their “religion” really is btw, they dont visit religious buildings) and we are ethnic Chinese that are living in the US at the moment.
No analogy will get through to them because you don’t understand the problem.
It’s not about a lack of understanding on how vaccines work or the basic physics/biology/etc. behind it. It’s about a not unfounded mistrust of media and medicine.
To use a medical analogy; you’re providing a vaccine after they’ve gone into sepsis and are surprised that it’s not curative.
“people who drink water have more hydrogen dioxide molecules in them”
edit: yes i see my error now and ill just leave it 💃
Bro here drinking HO2
It’s Lemmy, of course we’re going to see radicals.
Everyone looks annoyed except Stalin who is just happy to get to wear his rhino costume.
He’s thinking about all the murdering his friends he’s going to do
I never realized how much colm meaney looks like Gorbachev.
Who is the guy on the right?
Slow-clap.
guess i mustve because my brain doesnt work 🧚♀️
incorrect
There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water, than there are stars in the solar system
How does a medical association allow this person to keep her license?
Tricky, I’m no doctor but I think she’s not exactly incorrect. It isn’t ‘normal’ for us to have vaccines, etc, as vaccines are a -relatively- new thing for humans.
(However, it is better to have them than not.)
This is a “welllllll…she’s technically correct” situation. The problem I have is how she’s framing the issue and if I was her boss, or whatever, I would definitely be on to her to get an explanation of why she’s framing it in an apparently negative way.
They were new in the 1700s. They are not a new thing for humans today. If you don’t use vaccines you are an outlier to modern society.
Devils Advocate here…
Hypothetically she is right. Making elevated levels of antibodies long after a vaccination or exposure may not be normal…
Now on the flip side, other things that aren’t normal. Air conditioning, 99% of children surviving past their first birthday, solar panels. Just because something isn’t “normal” doesn’t mean that it is bad.
It could also be that we’re being constantly exposed to COVID in 2025 since we failed to contain or eradicate it, and the population never got up to herd-immunity level vaccination rates. Which would explain why the immune system is still making spike protein antigens.
I’m also doubtful about the levels of spike protein antibodies she is claiming, I’d bet that there isn’t a peer reviewed article that supports that claim.
Is she actually an MD?
…that is scary.
What do you call a med student that got a 1.5 GPA?
Doctor
“Doctor”?
I think you mean “GP”, as in “general practitioner.”
Don’t bring the PhDs into this. Captain Holt would not approve.
Interesting. Do your general practicioners not have doctorates? I wonder what that D stands for in the MD behind her name…
Ofc they do. But the specifier matters.
For instance, would you disagree that the “therapist” part of the title seems a tad less important when there’s something like “orgone” preceding it? Changes the nature, the credibility of what comes after it, no?
I’m not saying medical doctors are into pseudoscience, but we are joking about how badly trained and seemingly unintelligent some of them are. And pointing out “general practitioner” also shows that the doctor didn’t specialise, which sometimes is because of lack of ability.
In Finnish a health clinic is “terveyskeskus”, “health centre”, but a lot of people have come to call them “arvauskeskus” ~ “guessing centre”.
The people who actually excel at med schools rarely get stuck at that level and most of the doctors there are like late 20’s without experience or specialisation and the “intellectual rigour” they put into their work is… unimpressive, at best.
It’s more like they’re using a flow chart for every single thing and can’t understand a word you’re saying.
And that is why we don’t have enough GOs people shitting on them.
I respect people who try, and I respect that doctors can still be learning.
But when they literally mess up nine times out of ten and don’t even know the basic directions they’re supposed to give me for specific lab tests, then they are not skilled enough. Better to have none than to have them fucking it up even further.
When testing for gluten antibodies and before a gastroscopy for celiacs, you’re supposed to be on a gluten containing diet for at least 6-12 weeks. I wasn’t aware of that, but did realise to ask the doctor if me having completely avoided gluten for more than a year would affect the result. “No it won’t affect the result.”
Then I go and give it, and then also google the testing procedure. Every single source says that you need at least two weeks of gluten exposure and >95% of them say 6-12 weeks. I bring this politely to the attention of the doctor. She completely dismisses me and then does some office bullshit so she doesn’t have to see me anymore.
And I’ve honestly started running out of politeness, since it’s been like almost four decades and they’re still having problems with absolutely trivial basic shit. Mostly it’s because of the system that’s conditioned them into acting that way, not their inherent traits.
So it’s not like their education has been entirely wasted, but someone needs to teach them how to think. One should think that critical faculties would be a requirement in being a practicing doctor, but hey-ho, doesn’t seem to apply.
Honestly I think schools these days are a test of patience and a test of playing social games. Not intelligence.
She’s been out of school for too long. She probably a GP, which has a wealth of knowledge on all subjects but very little specific knowledge. Ask experts, not unqualified quacks.
I’m in my late 30s and feel that way about the schools I went to. I studied chemistry and while some of the material was good most of my grades were about teacher pleasing and completing arbitrary assignments.
They cared more about layout and formatting than about actual content in project reports.
Edit: I think the main purpose of higher schools is not to learn but to prepare you for corporate life. Accept whatever task is given no matter how stupid or wasteful it is. Also don’t challenge authority because your grades will suffer and if you do it too much you’ll fail.
Absolutely. Universities went from institution that’s taught you how to think outside the box to a place that teaches you how to fill positions at a lab/office/whatever. They don’t want you inventing the future, they want you filling their prescriptions or fixing their phones. It might lead into the old adage that those who don’t know how to do, teach? I don’t buy that, but still…
Think that entirely depends on the school/program
If you pay a University enough money, they’ll give you any title or degree you want.
Case in point, Trump has an economics degree from Wharton.
Sort of. I got a biology degree which meant I spent a lot of time in and out of class with “pre med” students. It was a program my school was known for and significant portion of the student population. Of the 100 or so students I saw daily my senior year more than half are now doctors. And about of quarter of them do shit like this.
They aren’t dumber or richer than anyone else, they just realized that you can gather a very large pile of money by selling bullshit to rubes.
You want spike protein antibodies. That’s the point!
Oh yeah? Today there are more people dying from dihydrogen monoxide than in the past.
Years after? That would be great news.
I thought the protection period was way shorter, on the order of one year?
Yea starts waning after a year but there is a phenomenon called back boost is that if you get reinfected a year later with another variant, this still boosts antibodies to the variant of previous infections/vaccs. I suspect she might not have conditioned to select individuals with no recent infections. Also happens in regular vaccines (maybe less in magnitude than mRNA, that I don’t know). Without this memory we would be toast and this lady does not even know this or does not know statistics. I hope she is not in some serious capacity for making healthcare decisions.
Yeah, I didn’t know that. I’m glad I’m protected for longer. Thanks modern medicine!
& thank you Moderna medicine 😁 !
I think it depends on what you’re trying to prevent. Flu vaccines have to adapt to rapidly evolving new strains every year, but you would still be immune to the specific strain in the vaccine for a long period.
One year is more like the protection is so good that you probably won’t even get sick.
I think it also depends a lot on the vaccine though. Something like meningitis or the MMR seem to be much much longer lasting, when you’ve had your shots you don’t need them again.
Probably someone who knows more about vaccines can explain it better.
Something like meningitis or the MMR seem to be much much longer lasting, when you’ve had your shots you don’t need them again.
Right, yes. Sorry, I was implicitly assuming this was about Covid Vaccines again, which seem to be the focus of “Vaccine Skeptics”
I somehow suspect she is not even using data conditioned by infection history and looking at a mix including individuals that might be recently infected with covid.
Devil’s advocate, is she trying to say compared to those unvaccinated but still exposed to/have had the virus? Or people who were never exposed? Because that could maybe change the context. You would think antibodies from a vaccine would stay around the same length of time as those exposed to the live virus directly.
If she is talking about people never exposed than I have no idea what she is talking about.
No. Just no. For many reasons. Don’t be part of the problem. “You would think…” stop there. You don’t need to use conjecture when there is research at your fingertips. Signed - worked in bacterial and viral genetics and vaccine development for decades.
I doubt asking questions is being part of the problem. Making claims of authority/expert on the topic, while no providing no additional however…
Have you considered providing credible sources instead? Might be easier for you to discern them compared to the rest of us and would be much appreciated.
so what’s wrong with what they said?
Well, let’s imagine that vaccine antibodies do actually stick around longer for a moment. All right. Who cares?
I could certainly think it was interesting. But concerning? In what way? “Oh no, I accidentally have too much money.” Okay. And?
This is essentially an appeal to nature fallacy. We don’t need to imagine she has a point to make; she’s trying to scare people.
there is no fallacy being committed at all in this thread. and you haven’t explained why this is the case anyway, you’ve only hinted at a hypothesis.
Oh, you’re an anti-vaxxer, huh.
Well, I could say I tried, I guess.you’ve made a leap of logic. but if that’s what you call trying, maybe we should wait for a real scientist
Snore doctor thinks she knows how the human body works.
How are there so many of these medical doctor quacks? You’d think going to school that long would teach you something!
