• Mr Fish@lemmy.world
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      As long as they’re shorts, only showing one vague, unverifiable, third or fourth hand anecdote each.

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      Are they at least 3rd-hand, (or more) spurious sources with an inscrutable chain of custody, because if not, you can miss with that.

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        Are they at least 3rd-hand, (or more) spurious sources with an inscrutable chain of custody

        Is there any other kind?

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    But I said the phrase “scientists don’t know everything” so now you have to listen to my bullshit.

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      Ahhhhh… Love that line. My brother and his fiance just had a baby and are debating on vaccines or not. They asked me, I said, it’s always better to get them and protect your child from as much as you possibly can. Like all of us here are vaccinated. I recommended that they follow what their doctor recommends. My dad chimes in with, “Doctors don’t know everything, they’re just trying to sell drugs for the pharmaceutical companies, that’s all they care about.” I looked at him and said, “As someone who studied biology in college, there’s a lot that a lot of us don’t know. But seeing as that doctor has had significantly more training than I’ve had, let alone you, I’m going to trust them more than some random article I’ve read online.” He stopped talking to me for a large portion of the day after that.

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      If they did, their job would no longer exist! This is proof they don’t know everything!

  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
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    Counterpoint: nuh-uh (They et. al., good ol’ days).

    Citations

    They et. al. (Good ol’ days). Trump proves that YouTube videos about The Creator that validate your feelings are equivalent to science. Many People Are Saying, 1(2), 10–20. Things I done heard. https://doi.org/I forget

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      Aren’t those just from the gay space lasers and Jewish hurricanes? I feel like their resistance means we’re on the right path.

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    Ideally, yes.

    What ends up happening if your research shows new conclusions on the basis of “better science” is that those in power will probably ridicule your new conclusions and findings since it doesn’t align with ‘accepted’ scientific consensus and doctrine. And by ridicule I don’t mean challenging the new theory on the basis of counter data/evidence and reasoning. I mean ad hominem attacks on the researchers themselves. “Well, they graduated from a top 30 university and not MIT, so anything they produce is not worth looking into”. You won’t be funded and the status quo will be allowed to continue without significant challenge.

    I used to want to be a researcher when I was younger. My experiences have been wrought with closed-mindedness, arrogance, and lack of critical judgment and objectivity. Maybe my experiences aren’t representative, but hearing from others (at least in my field), I see that this is a systemic and widespread problem within the scientific community as a whole.

    How long did it take to convince people the Earth was not at the center of our universe?

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      well … not to be nitpicky, and i recognize this is a sensitive topic … but i have come to understand that the simpler model is to be preferred, if it is precise enough for the practical purpose. As such, since most people aren’t satellite engineers, they don’t need to know about earth’s curvature. Earth being flat is often the simpler model, of enough precision, to actually prefer it.

      Just saying.

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    Indeed, and in addition if your religion is not supported by the facts it’s time to revise its assumptions. Religion can deal with new evidence, it’s just rather slow compared to say human lifetimes. I suspect thats because the basis of many faiths reasoning is built on philosophy, Christianity in particular. Which is a kind of precursor to experimental science where progress is slow or even circular.

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      Religion can deal with new evidence

      Of course it can, all fiction can be easily retconned.