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      They’re not totally wrong either, just missing a step and leaving a gap.

      Genetic engineering is strictly outlawed in the UFP which came about from the Eugenics wars.

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    I never saw LaForge as a “disabled person” at all. In my view he had superpowers. What puzzled me was why other characters didn’t wear similar visors. I mean why would blindness be a prerequisite for getting the ability to see in infrared, ultraviolet, etc? Seems like everybody would want that. Especially if it could be ocular implants like he eventually had.

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      Someone with functioning eyesight wearing the VISOR would just get a mishmash of nonsensical information. Their real senses clash with what the VISOR is sending them. Coincedentally it’s also the exact same reason for another side effect. Pain. Despite Geordi not being able to see, his eyes still sort of fought the VISOR and caused him constant pain. It also had the ability to be hacked which isn’t a great option.

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        Easy technobabble fix - the visor suppresses the optical neurons, or it simply acts as a blindfold so the real eyes see only darkness. LaForge’s pain was because the tech wasn’t fully developed. I forget if he still had the pain with the prosthetic eyes. Hackability is another problem we probably won’t have in the real future because of quantum encryption or whatever, but it’s still a good plot device present-day people can relate to - no matter how unrealistically it’s portrayed - click-click-click… “okay, I’m in!” LOL.

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          Easy technobabble fix

          Brother, the technobabble is what got us in this situation in the first place. They used the technobabble to create a flaw because perfection in a narrative is boring.

        • @bunchberry@lemmy.world
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          Quantum encryption won’t ever be a “thing.”

          All cryptography requires a pool of random numbers as inputs, and while different cryptographic methods are more secure than others, all of them are only as secure as their random number pool. The most secure cipher possible is known as a one-time pad which can be proven to be as secure as a cryptographic algorithm could possibly be, and so the only thing that could possibly lead to it being hacked is a poor random number pool. Since quantum mechanics can be used to generate truly random numbers, you could have a perfect random number pool, combined with a perfect cipher, gives you perfect encryption.

          That sounds awesome right? Well… no. Because it is trivially easy these days to get regular old classical computers to spit out basically an indefinite number of pseudorandom numbers that are indistinguishable from truly random numbers. Why do you think modern operating systems allow you to encrypt your whole drive? You can have a file tens of gigabytes bit and you click it and it opens instantly, despite your whole drive being encrypted, because your CPU can generate tens of gigabytes of random numbers good enough for cryptography faster than you can even blink.

          Random number generation is already largely a solved problem for classical computers. I own a quantum random number generator. I can compare it in various test suites such as the one released by NIST to test the quality of a random number generator, and it can’t tell the different between that and my CPU’s internal random number generator. Yes, the CPU. Most modern CPUs both have the ability to collect entropy data from thermal noise to seed a pseudorandom number generator, as well as having a hardware-level pseudorandom number, such as x86’s RDSEED and RDRAND instructions, so they can generate random numbers good enough for cryptography at blazing speeds.

          The point is that in practice you will never actually notice, even if you were a whole team of PhD statisticians and mathematicians, the difference between a message encrypted by a quantum computer and a message encrypted by a classical computer using an industry-approved library. Yet, it is not just that they’re equal, quantum encryption would be far worse. We don’t use one-time pads in practice despite their security because they require keys as long as the message itself, and thus if we adopted them, it would cut the whole internet bandwidth in half overnight. Pseudorandom number generators are superior to use as the basis for cryptography because the key can be very small and then it can spit out the rest of what is needed to encrypt/decrypt the message from it, and deterministic encryption/decryption algorithms like AES and ChaCha20 are not crackable even by a quantum computer.

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            This is a rather reductive view of quantum cryptography. The two most common applications of it I hear about is the development of encryption algorithms resistant to being broken on quantum computers (the way, say, Shur’s algorithm is known to break RSA) and techniques like quantum key distribution. Both of these are real problems that don’t become meaningless just because one-time pads exist - you need to somehow securely distribute the keys for one-time-pad encryption. That’s why one-time pads aren’t used everywhere (“it would cut the whole internet bandwidth in half overnight” would not have been a sufficient reason - that’d be a tiny price to pay for unbreakable encryption, if it actually worked).

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              This is a rather reductive view of quantum cryptography.

              Correct = reductive?

              The two most common applications of it I hear about is the development of encryption algorithms resistant to being broken on quantum computers

              First, I was talking about quantum encryption, not quantum cryptography, which is a bit more broad. Second, we already have cryptographic algorithms that run on classical computers that are not crackable by quantum computers, known as lattice-based cryptography which are way more practical than anything quantum cryptography could offer.

              the way, say, Shur’s algorithm is known to break RSA

              Shor’s algorithm. Yes, it breaks asymmetrical ciphers like RSA, but we have developed alternatives already it cannot break, like Kyber.

              and techniques like quantum key distribution

              Classical key exchange algorithms prevent someone from reading your key if they intercept the data packets between you. QKD is entirely impractical because it does not achieve this. Rather than preventing someone from reading your key if they intercept the data packets, it merely allows you to detect if someone is intercepting the data packets. You see, in regular cryptography, you want people to be able to intercept your data. It’s necessary for something like the internet to work, because packets of data have to be passed around the whole world, and it would suck if your packets got lost simply because someone read them in transit, which is why QKD is awful. If a single person reads the data packet in transit then they would effectively deny service to the recipient.

              Both of these are real problems that don’t become meaningless just because one-time pads exist - you need to somehow securely distribute the keys for one-time-pad encryption.

              One-time pad encryption is awful as I already explained, it would cut the entire internet bandwidth in half because if you wanted to transmit 10 gigabytes of data you would also need to transmit 10 gigabyte key. QKD is also awful for the fact that it would be unscalable to an “internet” because of how easy it is to deny service. It also doesn’t even guarantee you can detect someone snooping your packets because it is susceptible to a man-in-the-middle attack. Sure, the Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange is also susceptible to a man-in-the-middle attack, but we solve this using public key infrastructure. You cannot have public key infrastructure for quantum cryptography.

              The only proposed quantum digital signature algorithms are unscalable because they rely on Holevo’s theorem, which basically says there is a limited amount of information about the quantum state of a qubit you can gather from a single measurement, thus creating a sort of one-way function that can be used for digital signatures. The issue with this is that Holevo’s theorem also says you can acquire more information if you have more copies of the same qubit, i.e. it means every time you distribute a copy of the public key, you increase the probability someone could guess it. Public keys would have to be consumable which would entirely prevent you from scaling it to any significantly large network.

              That’s why one-time pads aren’t used everywhere, (“it would cut the whole internet bandwidth in half overnight” would not have been a sufficient reason - that’d be a tiny price to pay for unbreakable encryption, if it actually worked).

              You are living in fairy tale lala land. Come back down to reality. If you offer someone an algorithm that is impossible to break in a trillion, trillion years, and another algorithm that is in principle impossible to break, but the former algorithm is twice as efficient, then every company on the entirety of planet earth will choose the former. No enterprise on earth is going to double their expenses for something entirely imaginary that could never be observed in practice. You are really stuck in delulu town if you unironically think the reason one-time pads aren’t used practically is due to lack of secure key distribution.

              Even prior to the discovery of Shor’s algorithm, we were issuing DHKE which, at the time, was believed to be pretty much an unbreakable way to share keys. Yet, even in this time before people knew DHKE could be potentially broken by quantum computers, nobody used DHKE to exchange keys for one-time pads. DHKE is always used to exchange keys for symmetrical ciphers like AES. AES256 is not breakable by quantum computers in practice as even a quantum computer would require trillions of years to break it. There is zero reason to use a one-time pad when something like AES exists. It’s the industry standard for a reason and I bet you my entire life savings we are not going to abandon it for one-time pads ever.

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                If you offer someone an algorithm that is impossible to break in a trillion, trillion years, and another algorithm that is in principle impossible to break, but the former algorithm is twice as efficient, then every company on the entirety of planet earth will choose the former. Some companies who pay a lot of money for bandwidth, maybe. “Any company”? Not a chance. Internet is cheap and companies routinely waste money in much more frivolous ways. And for stuff which sells on its security, e.g. messengers like Signal, the advertising value of “our encryption is mathematically unbreakable” would be well worth it. And plenty of individual nerds would opt into it just out of principle, being fully willing to cut their bandwidth in half for fuzzy feelings. Not even to mention military applications. You don’t see such things in reality, because this is, unless I misunderstand something truly massive, impossible. You can’t do unbreakable encryption over the network because you can’t securely share the pad key. Yet, even in this time before people knew DHKE could be potentially broken by quantum computers, nobody used DHKE to exchange keys for one-time pads. Well yes, because that’d be incorrect - by sharing one-time-pad keys with DHKE you’re reducing the security to that of DHKE, so you might as well drop the one-time-pad part and use an ordinary encryption algorithm instead.

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    My only problem with this is that Geordi made it clear more than once that not only would he rather just be able to see, but that his VISOR caused him constant pain. I wouldn’t really call that accommodating for his blindness if that’s what was required to get into Starfleet later.

    And, of course, that was what made it so impactful when he finally had eyes that worked.

    And then there was Melora on DS9. Starfleet could have done so many things to fulfill her dream of traveling the stars without having her be stuck in the chair in near-1g environments or accept Bashir’s treatments. In fact, the only reason so few Elaysians ever left their homeworld was that everyone else was fine with 1g and no one gave a shit about their needs.

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      Geordi made it clear more than once that not only would he rather just be able to see, but that his VISOR caused him constant pain

      it was also suggested that his visor was “superior to human eyes”. star trek is habitually inconsistent about its world and sometimes it is better not to think about it too much.

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        I don’t think that’s contradictory at all though.

        Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can’t naturally see.

        To put it a different way: a person with advanced bionic legs that never tire, could run far faster than any natural human, and bend in ways that human legs can’t, would have superior legs. But there wouldn’t be anything wrong with their stance if they said “yeah but I just want normal human legs”.

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          Geordie’s new eyes were still bionic though weren’t they? It’s been a while, but I’m sure I remember him using them to search for someone in the movie.

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          I don’t think that’s contradictory at all though.

          Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can’t naturally see.

          we are nitpicking here, but if i amputate your hand and stitch can opener at its end, you can now do something normal human hand cannot, but i don’t think anyone would call that superior, or prefer it to their own hand.

          if geordi decided that after considering all factors, he would rather have normal eyes, then that is definition of “not superior” to me.

          and just a reminder that this is the extraordinary experience we are talking about. i am definitely choosing my eyes 😆

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            I mean a can opener is very different, no? Or at least it is when I try to put myself in those shoes.

            A can opener can open cans but nothing more. Sure you gain one piece of functionality, but you lose others.

            Geordi’s visor was a bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum, but also a bunch of other stuff.

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              bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum

              he could not: https://i.imgur.com/dlVpyIo.mp4

              would you want to see like that? i mean if you were born blind and this was your only option, it is definitely better than nothing, but other than that, it is hard no from me.

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                That’s a visual representation, in the visible light spectrum, of what he sees. He would see it differently than what appears on the viewscreen.

                There’s also nothing there that shows or says he can’t see the visible light spectrum.

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                  There’s also nothing there that shows or says he can’t see the visible light spectrum.

                  there is, it is exactly there on the screen, his perception of visible spectrum is just one step above nothing. would you want to see like that? accompanied by occasional technical problems and pain? would you call that superior to your eyes?

                  He would see it differently than what appears on the viewscreen.

                  that is just unfounded assumption, if you want to argue like that, you can make up literally anything and the discussion loses sense (not that the level of sense was very high anyway 😆)

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      The only thing I can think of whenever I hear that is, hilariously, an episode of Fairly Odd Parents.

      Timmy wished for everyone to be a grey blob so racism couldn’t exist. People still kept saying they were grey-er or blobbier.

      People just gonna hate.

      • @EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world
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        Honestly that show was and is so far ahead it needs a cameo ship in trek. It would be like other federation ships, with nacelles that look like wings and a little crown floating nearby.

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      Or they could just bang each other. In fact I’m kind of alarmed at how decidedly unmixed people still are in whatever year it is supposed to be

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    Why wouldn’t you cure things at birth if you already know how to? Like, you know the kid is going to be blind, and you could just give the mom a shot to change that, but you’re gonna choose to let the kid be born blind? I dunno, that’s kinda messed up.

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      Which is one of the arguments against the Federations ban on genetic manipulation. There are plenty of others against it. There’s no one answer to this situation, unfortunately.

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      Because blindness isn’t a disability in the Federation. Geordi lives a full and happy life, and, as OP mentioned, is actually able to save the entire crew specifically because he’s blind.

      “Fixing” his blindness in a compassionate, post-scarcity world that has the tools to allow someone to succeed no matter what physical characteristics they possess is like “fixing” a baby’s hair color. It doesn’t make the child’s life easier, so what’s the point other than eugenics?

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        The Federation is inherently plural, and we see several different attitudes toward disability by different people throughout the series.

        Geordi is blind from birth. No one holds it against the guy. He wears a prosthetic vision device called a VISOR which is kind of the vision equivalent of a modern cochlear implant, there’s an implant in his brain that an external sensor device hooks to. It’s not a perfect solution, it gives him headaches, but it allows him to see and function like a sighted person, he can even see outside of the visual spectrum. Several times throughout the series we see him working with his doctor to maintain and adjust his implant when it gives him problems. Several times we see glimpses of possible futures where he has swapped his VISOR for alternative treatment methods, and the canonical future seen in the films has him using implants in his eyes, or even seeing with natural eyes because of that one fountain of youth planet. Throughout the show, people mention other treatments he could be using, but for the run of TNG he prefers his VISOR, which his doctor provides continuous care for. We see him go to Dr. Crusher to have his VISOR worked on repeatedly throughout the show.

        Worf was paralyzed in an accident once. A heavy thing fell on him and broke his spine. Klingon culture is extremely ablest and he struggles to stand being seen by his friends or family in this condition, he wants to kill himself rather than live like this. He begrudgingly allows the doctors to try a treatment but quickly deems it unacceptable, so they INVENT SPINAL CORD REPLACEMENT SURGERY for him so that he can continue living his life on his terms. “There’s nothing for it, we’re just gonna have to grow a new backbone and central nervous system for the man.”

        Riva, the mediator/diplomat from the episode “Loud as a Whisper,” is deaf. In his words, “Born, and hope to die.” He has no intention of having his deafness cured or worked around, viewing it as a trait of his noble family and as a practical asset. He usually communicates through a trio of translators, but when they are killed, instead of attempting to cure his deafness via technology or medicine, Picard says “Okay it’s time for US to learn sign language so we can talk to this man.” and Data picks it up the fastest and takes on the role of interpreter. Riva’s mission is to bring two warring factions to the negotiating table, so he decides to use sign language as an exercise in learning to communicate with each other. Fun fact: The actor who played Riva is deaf in real life. He asked the producers of Star Trek to make an episode about deaf people and had a lot of creative input on the episode.

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        If there is a through-line to how the Federation treats people with disabilities, it is to prioritize the patient’s decisions. Geordi receives continuous care for his prosthetic vision. They fly in civilization’s leading expert to do an experimental surgery on Worf. The conversation with Riva goes “We can-” “No thank you.” “Okay.”

        As for this:

        | Geordi…is actually able to save the entire crew specifically because he’s blind.

        As Data points out in A Measure of a Man, though it would measurably improve a crewmember’s ability to function because he could see a wider range of the EM spectrum, the Federation does not force members of Starfleet to replace their natural eyes with cybernetic implants.

        This is also set in a universe full of sentient aliens with all different kinds of physical abilities and senses. Several species are empathic or telepathic able to sense and/or transmit their own emotions and thoughts. No humans can do that. Again in Measure of a Man, Picard hand waves off a demonstration of Data bending an unbendable girder because “Several sentient alien species possess mega strength.” There’s one episode with aliens that have a kind of solar powered heat ray thing (the plot required the aliens to be able to take hostages and they needed a weapon that Lt. Yar couldn’t confiscate). In a society made up of multiple sentient species that evolved with vastly different physical abilities, I think your whole concept of “handicapped” or “disabled” needs to shift.

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          The core theme is that the Federation provides individuals with agency over their bodies. Sure, Geordi’s mother could have had his blindness cured before he would have known anything different, but it’s his body and ultimately his choice. Interestingly, we see the opposite with Dr. Bashir. His genetic enhancements don’t just offend the Federation because of historical trauma with the Eugenics Wars but because his parents didn’t even give him choice in the matter (at least, that’s how I’ve interpreted it).

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        In the episodes of TNG that look at their near future, Geordi has his eyes fixed, or at least has realistic implants that allow him to see normally. Why would he do it if there’s no point? Is he stupid?

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        A major Geordi character arc revolves around his eyesight. Yes, his prosthesis affords him additional abilities and allows him full function, but that says nothing of the otherness he has felt and psychological impact of being different throughout his whole childhood, and the challenges he faced for acceptance, even within StarFleet.

        To dismiss his personal struggles while assuming that he’s fulfilled and would OPT to not have regular eyes is incredibly arrogant and ablest, no? It is also deeply lacking in awareness and consideration of psychology, which is pretty bang-on for Boomers of the era that STTNG came out. “Oh, well looking at the END RESULT, he turned out fine, despite his massive trauma.”

        The likelihood is that he did not turn out fine, we just don’t see the granular details of his psyche, on screen.

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        save the entire crew specifically because he’s blind

        so you take away a persons autonomy to have the potential to be able to see and live a life with natural sight as you see a use for it.

        You did a 360 there on the ethics and wandered into utilitarian territory reducing people to things.

        You might not define it as a disability but it’s still taking autonomy from someone. They could just as well invent a tool to help save the crew. There is more than one option for things such as that rather than reducing a persons entire definition to their difference and how useful it is to you.

        Human condition is more than their differences or their use to you.

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          I think he was getting at that Geordi’s decision to remain blind and accommodated with his VISOR ended up having unforeseen positive consequences. In other words, pluralism leads to unforeseen positive side effects.

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            Your use of pluralism here: Romanticizing taking away someone’s choice to be without a disability (or pain given his repeated conversations with doctors) doesn’t make this more palatable. Geordie hadn’t chosen to be blind it was a birth defect. He only gained power to see as a story point in a few episodes. The one time Pulaski did offer it it was clear from Geordie’s response that it isn’t a common known procedure to restore eyesight. Let alone a light one as it was irreversible. Given those parameters: Geordie hesitated because of the “lesser of known evils”.

    • You could make the same argument about down syndrome, autism, being transgender, darker skin tone. Eugenics is not a good thing, it seems appealing at first but it’s a slippery slope and gets ugly very fast. Also they have the technology to accommodate these kinds of disabilities, so why bother with all that when he could get ocular implants and live a relatively normal life.

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        You’re absolutely right about the examples you mentioned. I still would rather not live, or have lived, than being blind or being born without an arm or something not whole or complete. So I would definitely prevent certain things from being experienced by my children if I had the option.

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    Why the hell would it be eugenics to cure disabilities. If you could turn me from a trans chick into a cisbabe, I’d be down. I mean on one hand periods will suck, but on the other, maybe my fucking hair will grow out!

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      I’m in the same position, but if I could choose between the best hearing aids the 24th century can offer or repairing my ears, then I’m going full Geordi. Much in the same way I know some trans women wouldn’t make the choice we would.

      And that’s the thing, routinely Star Trek shows disabled characters having choices in how to approach their situation and making the choices they feel are right for them. Some people will take a 5% chance of negative consequences to get their legs back, and others will take a futuristic mobility aid instead.

      We actually already see this in cochlear implants. They’re difficult; unpleasant, and would give you hearing you don’t otherwise have

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      Let it be known, however, that Gene did say this after aggressively petitioning against Patrick Stewart as Captain. His baldness was specifically mentioned. According to Patrick anyway

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        well, he didn’t mention that in the bloody video. I blame Patrick Stewart for making me look like a fool.

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          Patrick has been telling this story for a while at the panels, Frakes and others will tell it too. Sometimes it comes with that caveat and sometimes not. I’ll see if I can find the clip where he talks about that.

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    Idk sounds a bit fucked up to not erase some birth defects and disabilities if you have the means to do so. Don’t have to bring eugenics into it if you can just give the mother a pill that will make it so that the kid won’t have a fucked up leg or something. Hell, if eugenics is the worry, could let that baby be born with a fucked up leg and fix it later.

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      As someone with disabilities due to multiple genetic problems, If there was a way, when my mom was pregnant, to alter those genes, so I wouldn’t have the BS, and they didn’t, I would cut them out of my life.

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      Yeah at some point in future space tech it becomes a trolley problem where not curing genetic disabilities is as much of a non choice as pulling the lever.

      The thing is, Star Trek was a show set in the far future trying to teach us morals about the present. And unfortunately for us, we don’t have space communism so if the choice is between accommodating for birth defects and an ineffective, corruption-prone, dubiously safe eugenics program the choice is a lot easier. They have to communicate the morals of that on the show and it creates a hole in logic.

      There’s also a head cannon that the “eugenics wars” that they reference in the show has actually warped the morals of the society they’re in for the worse as any discussion of pre-natal intervention is illogically taboo.

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        That’s not head-canon. It’s literally a plot point in DS9.

        It’s discovered that Julian was intellectually disabled as a child and his parents had him illegally genetically modified. He almost loses his commission and his father ends up being imprisoned over it.

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    I see names being mentioned and It’s problematic when someone assumes disabilities by armchair diagnosing characters with a disability and then defend it as if it were true.

    “I assume normies would find this character annoying as they have some quirky, slight misunderstandings of personal boundaries so I’m going to attribute them with ‘being on the spectrum’”

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      That isn’t happening though.

      Geordi is blind, Julian was genetically engineered to remove a learning disability and Tilly is stated as having special needs while being aggressively autistically coded.

      The only one that doesn’t have something directly pointing towards it is Barclay but that man is the textbook definition of Aspergers Syndrome and people have been saying it for decades. It’s not like his issues are minor either. They’re a significant core component of the character.

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    I mean, in response to the last one, the Federation does allow (and sometimes advocates) for the correction of birth defects.

    Julian: DNA resequencing for any reason other than repairing serious birth defects is illegal. Any genetically enhanced human being is barred from serving in Starfleet or practising medicine.

    Deep Space Nine, “Doctor Bashir, I presume”

    Doctor: Yes. It’s a girl. And aside from the deviated spine, she’s healthy.

    Paris: Will she need surgery?

    Doctor: Fortunately, we’ve advanced beyond that. Genetic modification is the treatment of choice.

    Voyager, “Lineage”

    So I imagine plenty of disabilities do end up being erased, it’s just that being disabled is also socially accepted to a much greater extent than today.

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      “DNA resequencing”

      If someone in Star Trek is born with a bum knee, they just laser surgery the knee. Deformed backbone, replicate a new backbone. A lot of defects and disabilities can be solved by 24th-century medicine without involving genetics.

      McCoy gave that old lady a pill and she regrew her kidney using her own aged body inside of an hour. Apparently, fixes of that type are an over the counter prescription and don’t run afoul of the eugenics laws either.

      Approved genetic modifications is more for things like conjoined births or fetal organ failure. Too many toes? Here’s some special shoes, carry on.

  • @LouNeko@lemmy.world
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    This is under the assumption that every single being being born anywhere is being gene tested and born at a hospital which is statistically impossible.

  • JackbyDev
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    I’m not a Trekkie, but I see this mentality a lot in fantasy settings. “Why would there be wheel chair users when a simple healing spell would cure it?” 🙄

    Edit: in case it’s confusing, I meant the idea that disabilities shouldn’t exist in fantasy because of magic is annoying.

    • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      Maybe because healing spells don’t work that way? Or maybe that type of spell requires some very rare and/or expensive ingredients. Like, it’s magic. You can make up whatever rules for it that you want.

      • JackbyDev
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        15 months ago

        In case it’s confusing, that’s the opinion I have as well.

    • Lovable Sidekick
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      There’s always the way to rationize that a medical problem can’t be fixed because of individual traits - for example, in the Wrath of Khan, Kirk needs reading glasses because he’s allergic to the drug they normally use to treat vision problems.

      • JackbyDev
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        Yeah, whenever people can’t think of things like this it’s so unimaginative. Like, heaven forbid the magic be not that simple or something.

  • @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    Accessibility features on phones and computers have made so much possible over time, it’s fantastic.

    It turns out thinking outside the box of common leads to great experiences.