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      Yeah, one man did hours of profiling and the other made the patch more elegant lol

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        Kind of like the butcher who got his hands dirty cutting a steak and then a Michelin star chef cooking it for you.

        One got his hands bloody. The other made it delectable for you to eat.

        Which is more important to the process?

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        He took the authorization for a bunch of Russians from being able to keep working on the Linux stuff. I’m def not remembering everything and I’d suggest you searching any news about it, it’s an interesting read

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          From being able to work on Linux stuff without having their contributions reviewed by someone else (not from russia).

          It’s an important distinction many seem to miss.

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        I already explained my point about it. A lot of companies rebased themselves when political issues occured. The Linux Foundation could easily do that. It’s just racism.

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          Sanctions against a country/nation that is attacking another sovereign nation are not “racist”. Russia could easily stop their war to start getting rid of the sanctions.

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            It depends, though. There are western and other countries invading and much worse, but there are no sanctions. It could be racism, interests or both that only a certain country is targeted with sanctions.

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              There should be sanctions on every country invading. Its not rocket science. It’s crazy to say that russia is being sanctioned for racist reasons. They are literally attacking an European nation. Makes sense that other European countries sanction them, no?

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                Yes, there should be sanctions against any country doing that and worse. But there aren’t. Why not? I see a lot of downvotes and no explanations. As per Europe, aren’t we talking mostly about US, since Linux is trying to follow their sanctions? Also even Europe is divided about who the enemy is, like pesky Hungary.

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              So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where? Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

              Why would they relocate? To keep a few Russian maintainers? Because not relocating is “racist”? Not sure what you mean, just trying to guess.

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                So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where?

                Somewhere stable and neutral like Switzerland or some island. I’m not a lawyer so can’t say which country is the best for it.

                Because not relocating is “racist”?

                To some extent, yes.

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                  “Russian” is not a race. And Finland has a history with Russia that isn’t easily forgotten. That is to say, every Finn I’ve spoken to hates Russia for invading Finland… Twice…

                  Finland isn’t even the only neighbour that hates Russia. At some point one has to wonder why so many of Russia’s neighbours hate, or at the very least don’t feel comfortable with, Russia.

                  Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

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                  Switzerland is currently sanctioning Russia. Let me say that again to be clear: moving to Switzerland, the most neutral country in the world, will not prevent you from having to abide by sanctions against Russia.

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          Counter argument: The maintainers could “easily” relocate to a country that is not currently conducting an invasion to enlarge its territory.

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            Do they? They could have just isolated those commits as sanctioned and added a warning. Linux hates Russians as a Finn, so didn’t need much convincing to remove them.

            I would be singing a different tune if our allies invading other countries at the moment were also sanctioned, but that’s not the case.

            As it stands, let the individuals escape the nation state punishment. They didn’t start this war, and likely don’t support it.

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              Rationally speaking, the whole purpose of sanctions is to sanction the whole population of the country in order to get the government of the country to change it’s policies. And when it comes to sanctions, companies and entities doing business with the sanctioned countries are themselves sanctioned. So Linus had no choice but to remove the Russian contributors.

              We’re talking about a real situation, not about what would be better.

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          “A lot of companies” completely left the sphere of influence of basically any country except Russia? Doubt.

          I know the company i work for has to take similar steps when the sanctions went into effect, for example. Same as almost everyone.

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          …it’s not. It is stupid, it stalls mainlining of Baikal, but it is not a racism.

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          They are bound by USA sanction law, moving to another NATO country would be same sanctions against Russia

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        Apparently tankies on Lemmy don’t like Linux any more after some Russian contributors were removed from the maintainers list.

        The contributors were removed because they or their employers (or maybe ex-employers) appeared on the US list of Specially Designated Nationals (SDN). It is illegal for Americans such as Linus Torvalds to conduct business with entities that appear on that list.

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            Are you lost? This is not reddit. Also, Russia could stop attacking an european nation to gain some respect back. But they won’t. Instead they threaten everyone with nukes daily and cry why nobody likes them.

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        They’re crying about the removal of Russians for being a security threat to the project, when they should be directing their hate at the psychopathic megalomaniac.

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      You think open source project maintainers should move to different countries because of temporary sanctions? What if they have a wife with a job and kids in school? Or delicate Lego collections that are impossible to pack? Or a side-piece?

      Take issue with the sanctions if you want but don’t take issue with people who don’t want to move their family, LEGO collections, and side-pieces.

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        There are hundreds of Linux developers, including companies like Red Hat, Intel, IBM, Google, and more. You want all these people to up and move to… where? Somewhere. Russia, or a Russian ally presumably but hell if i know. Anyway you want them all to move so a handful of people working for Russian weapons manufacturing companies can keep maintaining pieces of the Linux kernel?

        This is obviously a non-serious suggestion.

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        Move physically? Of course not. If it’s required to register the foundation, they could ask a maintainer from the country to register it. It’s not the cleanest of schemes but it should work. Though if Linus lives in the US now, it can still cause issues because US law system has been proven to not work and they could easily arrest him illegally if they wanted to. However in this case it’s the same as living in Russia. Both countries are terroristic.

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      after he became geopolitical.

      I don’t see him becoming Putin