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realitista@lemmy.world to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 years ago

Every base is base 10

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Every base is base 10

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realitista@lemmy.world to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 years ago
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    Can we all use base 12?

    It will be a shower of shit for like 50 years but then it will be marginally better for pretty much everyone.

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      42* years. Centuries are now 84 years. We are living in the 19th century! I rate this idea 12/12.

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        5/7 movie

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          shut the f*k up rob

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        I rate it A/10, it’s a really efficient numbering system but I personally will have a really hard time adjusting

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      50 years? I bet we couldn’t even agree on how to write “11” & “12” on such short notice. (See: date format, encoding, etc)

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        Well we write 12 like this: 10

        It’s easy

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          oops I mean “10” & “11”

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        we could just go with the hexidecimal way and go with A,B,C for 10,11 and 12

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          No, 12 in base 12 is 10, not C. But yes, 10 can be A and 11 can be B

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            Dude’s out here trying to get us to use base 13.

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              Why not?

              Why not use a large prime as the base?

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                Honnest answer, 1/2 in DEC is 0.5 easy. 1/2 in base 13 is .6666666666… Easy but ugly. You want a base that has comon fractions easily represented by decimals. People like dozenal since many fractions are easily represented. 1/2 = 0.6, 1/3 = 0.4, 1/4 = 0.3

                I’m personally a fan of hexidecimal partly because I’m a programmer and partially because it can be halved several times

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                  it’s almost like you’d have to use a different notation system to express a different base…

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                  Is 1/2 in base 13 not 0.65?

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                Ahh yes, let’s introduce floating point rounding errors for one half. Sounds fun.

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                Why use a fixed base? Or why not use an irrational number like e, the most efficient base

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                  I still think some largish prime, like 37 hits the perfect spot of being usable enough for people to use, but still useless enough to stop almost everybody from learning any advanced math.

                  But yeah, making integers non-representable is a serious trade-off that deserves consideration.

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                Lets use base Pi and put an end to that infinite digit bullshit.

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            ah right, thanks

        • P. Montegomery Hat (he)@lemmy.world
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          Over my dead body.

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
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        The current standard seems to be an upside down 2 and 3

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          An upsidedown 3 is just a 3…?

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            Rotated, not flipped.

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      Some people argue that it would be harder to count on your fingers but we could just surgically give everyone more?

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        There are 12 sections on your fingers (excluding your thumb) you then use your thumb to count to 12 on one hand.

        Two hands can allow you to count to 24. Which is way higher than 10. Base 12 is better!

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          Binary’s the way. 1023 with 10 fingers

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            I like the idea of some numbers being popular hand gestures.

            4 - Fuck you; 17 - Shaka (hang loose); 18 - Metal horns; 19 - “I love you”; 132 - Double fuck you

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          With 2 hands you can count to 144.

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          Bold of you to assume I’d ever remember this counting technique. Hell I’m shocked I remember counting my fingers for base 10…

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          To be fair, you should be comparing 2 hands in base 12 to 2 hands in base 10, I. E. 20:24. Still a real difference, but not the 10:24 difference you pointed out.

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        When was the last time you’ve actually needed to count something on your fingers?

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        Billions of years ago, our collective great-great-great-[several million more]-grandparent evolved a fin with a five bone structure. That idiot didn’t know anything about common denominators, and now we’re stuck with this numeric system that can’t divide things into thirds without causing issues.

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          Vertebrates appeared less than a billion years ago.

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      50 years? We can’t even switch to metric.

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        Every civilised country on earth uses metric.

        Only the really shitty ones use imperial. Imperial is just stupid (unless you count in base 12 ironically)

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      That’s Acadian, right? It was originally based on the number of easy to count bones in your fingers (12-24)

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      Or better yet, base 6?

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      so, 60 years in base 10

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      nah we should use binary, anything else is cringe.

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