Lets say contentious things about Star Trek! I’ll start!
The mirror universe sucks. It adds nothing to the franchise, and the episodes that involve it are some of the worst in every series
100% agreed. They should have forgotten about it after the one TOS episode. I like that episode a lot though.
Idunno. What about mirror Ezri and Intendent Kira?
Honestly? Queer representation by characters in a universe where everyone is evil is, in some ways, a step backward.
That shit’s on Berman. Mirror Kira was such a fun character, allowing Nana to chew up the scenery.
Mirror Kira was fun in that sense, but honestly, I don’t feel like the mirror universe stories added much to DS9 and there are other ways she can show her range.
Her episode where she’s supposed to evict a farmer from his land is one of the best examples of both Kira as a character and Nana’s ability as an actor.
I agree that she definitely had opportunities to show range in the character of Kira, but I was thinking of the many ‘alternate version of X character’ Star Trek plots that don’t involve the mirror universe they could have gone with if the goal was ‘this actor plays a totally different character.’ DS9 itself even did that, like with the Benny Russell episodes.
I skip every mirror universe episode.
Is it a hot take to say the Shatnerverse mirror universe kicks ass?
I dunno. It does kick ass, though.
Strange New Worlds has painted itself somewhat into a corner by being a prequel.
It’s a great series, but if Spock and Uhura are in trouble, and the only way to save them is for that nice James Kirk fella to sacrifice himself, well, we know that there’s a twist coming.
This is always going to be the problem with series set before canon events and it’s long been an issue I had with them. I know it’s easier to write historical fiction in an established universe and you can dodge some of this by going back far enough (see: ENT); but, it is always going to feel hesitant and a bit uninspired.
My bigger issue with SNW Uhura is it’s taking way too long to become the super confident TOS Uhura.
And will we see any of that Uhura before the show’s end? The next season will likely be their last, the way Paramount’s going.
That’s what I’m worried about too.
Tuvok alone was worth killing Tuvix for. Resurrecting Neelix was a happy accident.
I loved Neelix, especially when it was revealed that pretty much all of his bowing and scraping and his jealousy could be explained by having extreme PTSD after seeing almost his entire species get wiped out, but it was always clear to me that Ethan Phillips played Neelix with a lot of sadness hidden behind his behavior.
After Kes left, he was also a much better character.
Yeah, I actually love the character, and Ethan’s portrayal.
I’m really just being spicy.
That said, only one half of Tuvix was capable of operating Trek’s famous science-magic-saves-the-ship interface(s).
You misspelled unhappy
Pretty sure that’s been established as the concensus by now.
My contribution is that Harry Kim deserved to stay an ensign. Considering how often his impulse or libido resulted in disaster (or his own death), he would have been kicked out of Starfleet entirely. Lucky for him, they were stranded in the Delta Quadrant and Janeway needed bodies.
Also, IIRC the few times he was in command, he wasn’t any good at it.
The ship in distress he decided to help. Turns out they were smuggling a cloak prototype to defend against a warring faction. Look at our little Ensign Kim, breaking the Prime Directive for the first time. They grow up so quick.
I skip that episode on rewatches. Way too much second hand embarrassment
Neelix and Kesssssss should have been shot out of a torpedo tube while still conscious before the end of Season 1.
Star Treck Disco was, is, and will always be a hot mess of spare parts boldly going nowhere.
I didn’t actually have a problem with the way Enterprise ended. Setting aside the actual quality of the episode, I think the framing device connecting the beginning and ending of this era of Star Trek was fitting given that this was the end of Star Trek for the foreseeable future.
Yeah. The ending was foreshadowed plenty. The part that hurts is we got 45 minutes instead of the full season that they clearly planned on.
Oh yeah. I guess it’s kind of a shame that we didn’t get to see a longer story for the founding of the Federation.
Pulaski > Crusher
I am so with you on that.
My 2nd hot take in this comment section: I actually enjoy Star Trek V - The Final Frontier an awful lot. Roasting Marshmelons, singing Row Row Row Your Boat, being one with the horse, killing “God”… What’s not to like?
What’s not to like?
“I know this ship like the back of my hand.” bonk
I’m okay with the candle
Neelix is the greatest character on Voyager.
I will not tolerate this sort of Neelix slander.
I love Neelix, with his toxic positivity and being a perfect foil for Tuvok. Mostly been looking for an excuse to use that gif.
That’s fair, I’m always amazed about how you come up with the most bonkers GIFs in almost every Star Trek thread.
They’re not mine. I just have a knack for sourcing. Do a gif search for swear trek and enjoy losing a lot of productivity.
It’s only page one … the other 27 pages are in my room
My wife stopped watching with me because she couldn’t stand Neelix as the comedy relief in the early seasons.
If time travel is said to be impossible yet it is so easily achieved in so many story lines in Star Trek than why didn’t they just invent a safe way to travel between periods.
And if there is an eventual temporal war than everything gets destroyed and all life is wiped out in the galaxy. There would have eventually been an extremist group that would have taken the technology to it’s fullest limits and traveled back to a period when the galaxy was very young. They would have severely altered everything to the point of not making any future possible.
It always annoyed me that engineers, scientists and technicians could always find a way to travel back and forth through time “just this once because of this reason” … yet no one takes up the science to recreate the event and bake technology to purposely travel back and forth through time.
How else do you explain Temporal Anomalies steering clear of Janeway (future/present/whenever) getting away with whatever? With exception to that incident with Sarah Silverman.
just as long as we get to kill schopenhauer I’m in
Well, you had me until Nietzsche. If only for the association of his rhetoric with the slog that was “The Brothers Karamazov” by Dostoyevsky. As to the ongoing debate relating to each person’s influence may not be proven, I find it hard not to disassociate such a blathering tale with their mutual misguided ideals.
TNG is pretty meh. I grew up with it, I’ve watched every episode at least twice, but now that I’m as old as Patrick Steward was when TNG started, I have a hard time caring about most episodes.
I think this wins the award. Anyone want to challenge this one?
You have no idea how long I’ve been holding that hot take in.
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Strange New Worlds, the show that should have brought Star Trek back to it’s former glory is horrible and unwatchable. People that behave like teenagers, not professional Starfleet officers. And they made Spock an Emo kid.
I don’t get why the bringe of (at least Picard’s) Enterprise is located at the top of the ship. We often see ships suffering hull-damage, sometimes scraping each other and getting into all kinds of perilous situations. So why put the room with the most important people in such a vulnerable position when you could put it at the heart of the ship? Bridge would be less likely to suffer from hull damage and decompression. Also, why don’t enemy factions just go: Oh that’s the bridge. Jolly good. Aim torpedoes at it, watch their morale crumble to dust alongside the bridge crew and call it a day.
This may be apocryphal, but gene had originally planned for the bridge and subsequent space battles to reflect those of submarines - playing out entirely within closed rooms and getting feedback from sensors. This didn’t sit well with producers, who wanted windows and for kirk to look out directly at an enemy, hence the viewscreen and placement on top of the saucer section.
Not just the Enterprise-D. In fact, The Cage starts with a zoom from the outside of the ship into the bridge of the original 1701 at the top.
Where My Heart Will Take Me is actually an amazing theme song.
