Fallen. Denzel sets a very neat trap for the demon… but not neat enough.
Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog as well. While the Doc may have been mostly noble and Hammer mostly awful, it ends (somewhat ambiguously) with the Doc actually turning into a villain.
The Usual Suspects is the first one that comes to mind that isn’t horror and the villain winning by getting away. Does that fit the ‘evil wins’ concept you are looking for?
Would Reservoir Dogs also count in that case?
None of the thieves got away at the end of Reservoir Dogs.
This is not to say that “good” triumphed at the end either.
Mr Pink walked away with the diamonds before the police arrived. It’s not clear if he was caught or not but he did walk away. https://youtu.be/0GQc_SwSp_U?si=1XjXFxckgrvR_6EV
It’s pretty clear to me given the cops shooting, then shouting orders, and Mr. Pink saying he’s been shot, that he does not in fact get away.
I know there’s theories on the Internet about this, and he may not have died, but at the very least he’s been caught and does not keep the diamonds.
The Social Network.
No Country For Old Men.
A Scanner Darkly, the drug epidemic is controlled by the pharmaceutical companies and they are still rich at the end.
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But the movie ends with the brainfried undercover cop picking a drug-producing flower to send to his friends as a gift. It’s implied that’s what they need to bring the drug empire down.
It’s implied that it could go either way, but the ending it has ended before that could be decided. Also that undercover cop burned out his brain for a cause he never really signed up for.
I am going to put in little shop of horrors since it is a musical. And I really would not consider it horror.
For those of you that don’t know there are actually 2 versions of this movie. The original release version where the plants lose and the ORIGINAL test audience version where the plants win.
Globo Gym wins in the original version of Dodgeball, but the test audiences hated it so they added the blindfolded stand-off. I’m mostly happy they changed it, but that original ending would have been so ballsy. Also would make the subtitle better, since most “true” underdogs do lose.
The director insists the alien plants winning was the original ending he wanted, but he was forced to give the film a happy ending at the last minute. The director’s cut gives you the original ending in all it’s evil glory.
There’s also an original Little Shop of Horrors released in 1960 that stars a young Jack Nicholson. That film has a different ending than both endings of the 1986 remake.
Willy Wonka (Or Charlie) and the Chocolate Factory. And not because of Charlie, but because of Wonka.
The dude’s basically a slave owner, paying his workers in cocoa beans, he nearly drowns a kid, poisons another, throws a third into an incinerator, and disfigures a fourth.
He’s not a good person.
Willy Wonka/Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is almost like a kid-friendly horror movie.
He’s also pawning off a ton of OSHA violations the year that OSHA was created, likely seeing such a regulatory body in Britain being likely
Those kids deserved it tho
on the one hand, their crime was being kids, on the other hand, their crime was being kids
Their crime was being one-dimensional.
Half of US «War movies» It’s not like the US soldier were less evil than the person they fight
Are you familiar with Nazi Germany?
Just making sure.
Nazis certainly were evil at their core and may be an outlier. War though? It’s difficult to not call war and it’s atrocities evil. Even if you can prove irrefutably that you are on the “good side”, two barracks down, the next town over, a 1000ft overhead something evil could be taking place specifically because war exists, and what’s evil hides easiest in chaos and death.
Conflict happens. To the single soldier. The lonely wife. The stricken Mother and Father. War rarely has a true meaning. “Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer” Javik (Mass Effect)
People tend to defend war because of their agreement or disagreement over the reason for a conflict. While there is often a morally right side and wrong side, all I really see are the lives lost.
Nice speech. Not terribly relevant, but I’m sure it made you feel nice.
Don’t forget Imperial Japan! Everyone leaves them out of the discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1gcipAvplY
The Americans never fought the Nazis. The Nazis fought them.
I’d just like to point out that it wasn’t the Americans who beat the Nazis, it was the Soviets
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All while killing nearly 15 million civilians and undesirables, after being allied to the Nazis and invading Poland and then only going against the Nazis when they kept invading.
The Soviet’s were happy to carve up Europe with the Nazis.
The soviets didn’t win it single handedly by any measure, but funny joke and all.
The Soviets weren’t the good guys, they just happened to be double fucked by their bad guy ally.
Wow. Unironically spouting nazi propaganda in a thread about the nazis being evil. What a load of ahistorical bullshit.
Yeah, the nazis and their defenders will always come out of the woodwork any time someone points out the (easily verifiable) facts regarding who really won WWII (the Soviet Union) and defeated the axis powers.
LOL.
Christ alive it’s hilarious how thick the tank fuel is on your breath
You’re funny.
And you’re a fuckin’ clown.
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Brazil (1985)
There will be blood. Oil mogul thrives while america plunges into depression. Plainview and people like him will go on to be more influential down the line. Like prescott bush or hw bush.
If I remember right, The Usual Suspects
Law abiding citizen
Cabin in the woods
Glad to see Law Abiding Citizen listed, I hate the ending with a passion.
Fight Club
Primal Fear (1996). It’s arguable whether or not the antagonist is truly evil though.
Chinatown
