What you need to know
- As Dragon’s Dogma 2 launched on PC Thursday evening, a previously hidden suite of microtransactions became available for purchase.
- Things you can buy for the single player ARPG include fast travel points, Rift Crystals for hiring Pawns and buying special items, appearance change and revival consumables, a special camping kit that weighs less than normal ones, and a few others.
- In response to the microtransactions, Dragon’s Dogma 2 is being review bombed, with the game currently sitting at “Mostly Negative” on Steam.
Dragon’s Dogma 2 is being review bombed
No, it’s not. Review bombing is a reaction caused by an extrinsic factor. DD2 is being reviewed negatively because of what’s built into the game.
The problem is that those two things look exactly the same without the added context that you can’t fit into an easy title and people won’t read the details anyways.
Dragon’s Dogma 2 launches to “Mostly Negative” reviews criticising previously hidden microtransactions, and man, what a bummer
did it for ya
Imagine putting microtransactions, paid character edit vouchers, Denuvo, and anti-cheat into a $70 single player only game. They know what’s happening, they’re just trying to shift blame onto the community.
Wait, anti-cheat? Wtf?
It has Denuvo Anti-tamper and Denuvo anti-cheat. If they didn’t include the latter, you could just bypass the microtransactions entirely.
There’s a mod right now that adds the item you need to change appearances to a vendor for like 10 gold, so I’m not really sure what cheats it’s preventing exactly.
The very fact it’s called a “review bomb” is an attempt at controlling the narrative. Fuck game “journalism”.
$70 price point for entry, microtransactions for stupid shit, and launches with severe technical issues.
I’m so sick of your shit Capcom.
When a game releases with multiple purchases along side it, it just means you chopped up my full price game and are charging me extra for what I should have already gotten
WWE 2k24 in infuriating like this. If you want the full game on release, it’s actually like $150.
Exception to this is actual extras, like the game’s soundtrack or access to concept art.
Supposedly a lot if not all of these micro transactions are simply faster unlocks to the content/feature, still though not a good look.
That just means they deliberately made the game tedious with the goal of annoying people into paying
This is what I’ve pieced together as well. Everything can be fairly easily found and used (or hoarded) in game. However, this in no way excuses the other issues.
That said, I don’t blame the devs. Someone light the C-Suite bonfire.
If the devs know what they’re working on, they’re choosing to participate in it.
Following this thread of logic the thousands of devs laid off in recent weeks must be heroes. After all, if they don’t have a job, according to you they can do no harm, and that’s a good thing.
Unless you think someone who refuses to do the work they’re assigned are likely to retain their position?
Peoole can’t just quit their jobs because they don’t like a few decisions by the suits. If that were feasible for everyone then the world would be a better place.
Thanks for letting us know. Removed from my wishlist.
Things you can buy for the single player ARPG include fast travel points
What in the fuck.
LOL THEY MANAGED TO MAKE THE FAST TRAVEL WORSE THAN IN THE FIRST GAME?! HOW?!
I don’t know exactly how true this is, but I read in another thread that you can’t even delete your save and start over
I’ve read that you can start over. But not in any kind of sensible in game way.
You have to completely delete all of the game’s files off your computer and steam cloud
You have to start from a fresh install every time
Maybe they’ll sell a microtransaction that allows people to start over.
I was joking around but I just read that is literally true, what the hell?
That’s another dlc coming once it’s been out for a week.
FWIW the items to do this are also available in game. I haven’t played yet so I don’t know how reasonable it is to get these in game.
lol. First it had denuvo and now microtransacrions? pathetic
Something was off with the way fast travel worked but I didn’t expect they’d try to fucking sell it.
“we won’t have fast travel…”
FOR FREE.
They almost got me with preorder last night, but I was like nah I’ll just wait and see in the morning. I love how i’ve been reading for weeks that “it’s good they made fast travel hard”, like preparing us for a fast travel MTX. Or it’s the greatest character creator of all time, but to edit after you have to spend more money - the game is basically $100 canadian. Absurd.
Fuck, really? I mean, I’m not like a die-hard fan of the game(s) or anything, but the first one is still pretty enjoyable. And it’s $5 on steam.
And it’s a totally complete game, with an in-game barber/character customizer. You can’t change your character’s body type though, only the hair and skin colors/styles.
totally complete
Nah m8, they had circumstances that forced them to release it before they wanted to. There is a bunch of cut content and other not fully realized features. People just don’t notice them much because the game is phenomenal as is.
I mean literally every video game has some cut content somewhere. Whether it still feels complete afterward is a different story.
Never pre-order. Learned that long ago. Even games I have waited on for a long time, i’ll still wait. Starfield was most recent example of that.
I think I will break the rule though for the factorio DLC, if they do a preorder.
Just curious on what you think the benefit of pre-ordering a factorio dlc would be instead of buying after release?
No real benefit. Guess I was trying to say that i trust factorio devs.
Damn game has devoured years of my life…
Lack of simple fast travel is what made the first game horrible
This is why we don’t pre-order :/
Stop buying this shit, and they’ll stop doing it.
They won’t stop doing it. Think of how many live service games have failed. Are the investors going to stop drooling over that Fortnight $$? AAA game are made to please investors, not players.
Boiling everything down to econ101 serves to absolve the bad behavior or games companies as “rational actors” while placing the blame for shitty games practices on “stupid” gamers.
If enough people are buying it, they’ll keep doing it whether you like it or not. So why waste your energy getting mad about it?
You already lost the fight when you start talking about “bad behavior” and “blame.” Just accept the fact that you’re not the target audience for shitty modern AAA games, and move on.
It’s OK. I’m not the target audience either. I’m not the target audience for Taylor Swift concerts, either. Does that make it “bad behavior” if I don’t like her ticket prices?
Stop getting mad about companies making money. That’s literally their purpose. There are plenty of other products out there to buy.
Regulation. Bad behavior that can’t be policed by econ 101, gets regulation. Stuff like recognizing the predatory nature of these micro transactions and limiting their exposure to kids and warning labels like we slap on actual gambling. Even higher taxes on profits derived from these sorts games. Maybe they aren’t so profitable when we actually protect the vulnerable and they have to truly rely on just the ‘stupid whales’ and not kids.
Is it predatory, though? Or are people just upset because they fell for pre-order hype, despite it being 2024 and they should know better.
Let’s not muddy the waters by comparing it to gambling. Pay-to-win (or pay-for-convenience, which, in my opinion, is the same as pay-to-win) is not gambling. It’s just shit. You’re not paying for a randomized chance at a reward. You know exactly what you’re getting.
I don’t have first-hand knowledge of the game, but from what I have seen, there are no predatory IU elements to lure vulnerable kids into stealing their mom’s credit card.
Don’t get me wrong. I think the MTX is shit. I was mildly interested in the game, but now I won’t consider it even on 75% Steam sale. Capcom won’t be getting my money, that’s my choice.
We don’t need the government involved in regulating shitty entertainment. It’s not water or electricity or healthcare. You can just not buy the thing. If you start calling for regulation of everything you don’t like, that’s how you get geriatric politicians who never played a game in their life and still call it “the Nintendo” deciding what you can and can’t have in your game.
I was responding in general to the concept, not specifically this implementation, which as you say is not the worst implementation for sure.
We’ll have agree to disagree on pay2win not being predatory. Again, this specific implementation may not be as bad, but the market as a whole absolutely has examples just as dangerous as slot machines. They’re built on the same psychology.
As for regulation, it doesn’t strictly have to come from the government. Both movies and games have rating boards specifically to avoid government intervention and I think they are failing consumers here. The threat of government intervention might see the ESRB and the various gaming marketplaces adopt more strict rules and warnings. Things like preventing the sale of games with specific, predatory mtx dark patterns and mechanics from sale to minors, stronger warning labels on games containing these sorts of practices and penalizing companies from adding MTX in a deceitful manner (such as after launch). A game would be heavily penalized for adding adult content this way and perhaps MTX should be treated in a similar manner.
You not buying the game is 1 vote, someone that pays for micro transactions get multiple votes everytime they buy, you lost, they paid for your copy.
The ones who buy items in-game are the ones who buy the games. Those are the customers they want to appease the most.
Damn… I was really close to pre-ordering this one and I held off basically just because I wanted to wait for information about the Steam Deck compatibility. So glad I didn’t pre-order. I figured all of the glowing reviews that came out earlier this week would have mentioned secret microtransactions, but it seems like this was a very nefarious bait and switch. I like to give the benefit of the doubt and apply Hanlon’s Razor, but it really feels like this was a deliberate and sinister act.
There’s rarely any reason to preorder a digital thing. They don’t run out of stock.
The preorder “bonuses” are rarely worth it.
You made the right choice.
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Not really, they just hide the micro transactions during the review period, Activision did the same with CTR.
Never, ever pre-order.
The only “advantage” is that you can play the game a few hours, maybe a day earlier, which makes no difference whatsoever in terms of the fun you get from the game, and to get that “benefit” you run a huge risk of not only wasting your money but also of getting to experience the actual feeling of having been scammed.
I can understand that most people lack the impulse control to wait 6 months or more (by then getting it cheaper and with most bugs fixed) and just “have to have it right now”, but in the digital download era pre-ordering might at best get the game in your hands a few hours earlier than just buying it when it comes out.
Cant wait to play the next Monster Hunter and buy hunting permits at $2.99 for each hunt.
You mean the series that has been selling a character edit voucher since World?
I’ve been a fan of Monster Hunter since the PSP and somehow completely forgot that it was made by Capcom. I was already a bit peeved that they moved G-rank behind a paywall and a year of waiting but now I’m nervous that you may not be super far off. People already think that the game has a desire senser and with AI being what it is today it wouldn’t be very hard to sell a ‘premium carving knife’ with charges on it to get that Gem or Plate you need to finish your set.
Theyll turn the elder melder into the elder lootbox store
Oh no. We gotta stop giving them ideas.
You can earn minimum wage in premium hunt credits by working the grill with the felyne chefs (up to 20 hours of work youre not getting free insurance by working full time you freeloader)
Gonna have to pay to skip cutscenes too. And SOS flares aren’t free but aren’t expensive either. Oof, we should be execs somewhere.
G-rank was always dlc, but physical on another version called 3U, 4U or XX, or frontier united.
I didn’t have to pay for G-rank until Iceborne and Sunbreak. I’d like to go back to those days.
Because you arrived late so you just bought that version
I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I bought every version of every game since the first one and pirated the Japanese versions before they were localized. G rank wasn’t something you had to pay for until the games I mentioned. It was either in the game or it wasn’t. I’m not interested in having an argument though so I’ll just see myself out of this weird pseudo-argument.
Digital safari is a pricey venture.
They did so well with World and Rise… I’m cautiously hoping they learn from the backlash here.
How’s dragons dogma 2? … To shreds you say… And how about the community… To shreds you say …
I’m going to be angry about microtransaction once the game actually runs. A 5800X3D and 7900XT should not be getting 20 - 40 FPS with medium settings at 1440p.
I got it refunded. I’ll play it in a couple years after all of the patches and when I have a new gpu
