TL;DR:
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They will avoid monetization
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They will avoid providing step-by-step guides to play games on the emulator (I assume they mean extracting games from the console using hacked tools)
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They will avoid providing keys or circumvent DRM, you’ll have to get everything from your Switch
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The devs are upset at how much attention they’re getting which is kind of ironic considering the article.
“We wanted to fly under the radar at the start […] It’s already much more widespread than ideal for the current stage of development.”
They will avoid monetization
Funny: “suyu also needs to be a product. We need to find ways to monetise the project”
https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/Contributor-License-Agreement-Policy
Could it be that they just copied the one in yuzus repo and hard-replaced the names? Three quote makes reference to 2019, which is very weird for a 2024 project, but would be more normal for the timeframe of yuzu
However, in order to compete with modern emulators in 2019 and beyond, suyu also needs to be a product.
Could it be that they just copied the one in yuzus repo and hard-replaced the names?
Yes, it’s pretty much the same text as before but contributor zqpvr also adjusted the spelling of “monetized” to “monetised”, so it’s definitively not like the document flew under the radar and it was just part of a bulk import with a search and replace of yuzu to suyu: https://gitlab.com/suyu-emu/suyu/-/wikis/Contributor-License-Agreement-Policy/diff?version_id=f4ca3a5422d153139ccc66fc4d86ccb844d937e7
So for now “2) more easily monetise the project […] 3) restrict the access of non-core parts of the suyu source code” is the policy of suyu until revoked.
Will have to see how it goes, might be some OCD as another typo was also there.
I hope they don’t get Nintendo any ammo to go after them.
Will have to see how it goes, might be some OCD as another typo was also there.
Deleting the entire thing would have gotten rid of the typo as well. At this point, that’s just stupidity.
Cloning the repo of yuzu right at Nintendo tried to make an example of them might be considered…stupid.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope the best for them. But I would not risk my future against Nintendo.
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One thing is for sure: no other fork will have a name this good.
Nuzu was a pretty good name even if it’s already dead
I’d go with Yuza, the Korean version of the Yuzu fruit. Could be verbalized as “yowza.”
I just hope the one for the next system is called tuzu lol
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the Suyu development team has decided to avoid “any monetization,”
Should of always been like that
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(Or “Should’ve”)
Switch emulation would be 1/10th of where it is now without it.
Anyone trying to make money on a licensed IP they don’t own is in hot water.
Disagree. People deserve compensation for labor, and the Yuzu devs did good work. It’s our laws that suck.
Ehhh… it’s ok if there’s money involved but they definitely pushed it too far. However even if there was no money involved Yuzu made actions that shut them down.
Smart if you can self fund, but at the end of the day there’s a lot of costs that people ignore when it comes to emulation or things in the space. Working with a group called Retroachievements.org (small plug) and they accept donations for server costs but that’s it. Signed up for 1 dollar on Patreon and wanted to give them 10. They refused, which is a good sign.
Still the same Contributor License Agreement as Yuzu to make proprietary versions. They’ve learned nothing.
SueYou is an awesome name for N**tendo emulator
So how long until Nintendo tries to claim copyright to the code that was previously open source and threaten to sue the Suyu team just to scare them into settling?
You know what’s a really good defence: Not being based in the fucking US.
They are still running afowl of the anti circumvention rules in the dmca. Just saying you have to provide your own keys isn’t enough.
A switch emulator that wants to be safe from nintendo has to have no capability of circumventing the copyright protection mechanisms nintendo employs.
Look at vlc for inspiration. It can play blurays, it can’t circumvent the copyright protection of blurays. But if you provide the keys and the library that decodes the content then it can play them just fine. This keeps vlc safe.
This appears incorrect. Multiple emulators have ways to circumvent the copyright protection mechanism. None of them are being hit. Dolphin legit has the keys in their package. It’s why Steam didn’t platform them, but Nintendo knows and Dolphin is not changing. It would be literally the cost of the letter to get Dolphin to change. Nintendo hasn’t even sent that letter.
What Yuzu did wrong was outside of “anti circumvention rules” that you seem afraid of.
Sorry but it’s not wrong. The anti circumvention clause in the drmc was the direct complaint from nintendo against yuzu. Please research that clause and the legal prior art, especially against decss. I’ve had this conversation too many times to repeat it again.
“I’ve done it too many times to repeat it again” Really?
Isn’t that kind of beneath you? That’s the type of shit someone would say on a playground.
Besides which the full complaint doesn’t appear to be available anywhere, but what has been shown has not said what you’re claiming.
However other people might have more knowledge about this situation than you seem to, besides which other pieces that have been revealed since the original complaint have shown it’s not just about the ability to circumvention technology. So you know… maybe read more, or stop acting like you have all the answers when you don’t?
On the other hand consider if it was exactly what you say it is, why isn’t Cemu and Ryujinx getting their own version of the note… hint: it’s not just about the circumvention…
I’m just tired of explaining it over ten comments in a thread, I’m sorry I can’t just give you all the answers you want. I’ve my own stuff going on. I hope I gave you enough information to go find out the answers.
That’s assuming the Suyu team is based on the USA, where the DMCA can screw them over. As they’re hosting their code on GitLab istead of GitHub, it may hint they got this covered.
It’s worth noting that many countries around the world have their own versions of the anti circumvention clause of the dmca.
Just gotta find one that doesn’t.
