I have a unique name, think John Doe, and I’m hoping to create a unique and “professional” looking email account like johndoe@gmail.com or john@doe.com. Since my name is common, all reasonable permutations are taken. I was considering purchasing a domain with something unique, then making personal family email accounts for john@mydoe.com jane@mydoe.com etc.

Consider that I’m starting from scratch (I am). Is there a preferred domain registrar, are GoDaddy or NameCheap good enough? Are there prebuilt services I can just point my domain to or do I need to spin up a VPS and install my own services? Are there concerns tying my accounts to a service that might go under or are some “too big to fail”?

I can expand what hangs off the domain later, but for now I just need a way to make my own email addresses and use them with the relative ease of Gmail or others. Thanks in advance!!

  • ChrislyBear@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Do NOT self-host email! In the long run, you’ll forget a security patch, someone breaches your server, blasts out spam and you’ll end up on every blacklist imaginable with your domain and server.

    Buy a domain, DON’T use GoDaddy, they are bastards. I’d suggest OVH for European domains or Cloudflare for international ones.

    After you have your domain, register with “Microsoft 365” or “Google Workspace” (I’d avoid Google, they don’t have a stable offering) or any other E-Mail-Provider that allows custom domains.

    Follow their instructions on how to connect your domain to their service (a few MX and TXT records usually suffice) and you’re done.

    After that, you can spin up a VPS and try out new stuff and connect it also to your domain (A and CNAMR records).

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      2 years ago

      That said, you can use a third party service only for sending, but receive mail on your self-hosted server.

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        That’s what I’m doing. I have selfhosted E-Mail with YunoHost and send it through SMTP2Go.

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      2 years ago

      All good advice. I’d recommended protonmail for mail hosting - got very good experience with them and the onky downside is you have to use their client.

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      If you get your domain from OVH, you get one single mailbox (be it with a lot of aliases, like a different email-address for every service/website you use) for free.

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      I’d throw in mailbox.org as a more privacy-focused alternative to Google and Microsoft. Been using them for years without issues. Only their 2FA solution sucks.

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    I tried both hosting my own mail server and using a paid mail hosting with my own domain and I advise against the former.

    The reason not to roll out your own mail server is that your email might go to spam at many many common mail services. Servers and domains that don’t usually send out big amount of email are considered suspicious by spam filters and the process of letting other mail servers know that they are there by sending out emails is called warming them up. It’s hard and it takes time… Also, why would you think you can do hosting better than a professional that is paid for that? Let someone else handle that.

    With your own domain you are also not bound to one provider - you can change both domain registrar and your email hosting later without changing your email address.

    Also, avoid using something too unusual. I went with firstname@lastname.email cause I thought it couldn’t be simpler than that. Bad idea… and I can’t count how many times people send mail to a wrong address because such tld is unfamiliar. I get told by web forms regularly that my email is not a valid address and even people that got my email written on a piece of paper have replaced the .email with .gmail.com cause “that couldn’t be right”…

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    I’ve done this in the past using Gmail. You pick a domain provider and get their email plan. Most offer both services. I’ve used name cheap.

    Then in your regular Gmail account you can configure the IMAP settings from the domain registrar to receive the email from that inbox. Then in Gmail find the settings where you can send as another address. This lets you use that new address in our outbound mail. From there I just auto label the incoming mail to help sort the two addresses.

    Now you should have your regular Gmail and your new novelty email all in one place.

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    2 years ago

    I’m an admin of a self hosted iRedMail (with iRedAdmin Pro).

    My advice is: Don’t.

    Getting an email server running is easy. Managing them is not.

    There are some good advice here. Use commercial service with personal domain.

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    2 years ago

    Just throwing in my two cents since I just went through this same ordeal: I use Proton, but be aware that you can only use a custom address if you pay for the premium plan which is not crazy cheap. I’ve been pretty happy with their premium plan so far, which includes premium features for mail, calendar, cloud drive, VPN, and password manager, but if I ever decide that I don’t want to keep paying for it, I can always transfer my custom domain to a different provider without needing to update my email.

    As for the domain, I went with namecheap. I also have a pretty common name, so the good domains were taken and I had to settle for firstname@lastname.in but I think it’s still pretty easy to remember.

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      Proton is all fun and games until you find out they don’t support IMAP/SMTP without a bridge.

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    I don’t know current pricing, but a premium proton account, which was ~$9/month when I started has worked very well for me. I like the other features they are rolling out and use them a lot.

    Domain is purchased through cloudflare, and I think it was like $10/year?

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    2 years ago

    I do this. Personally I use cloudflaire for my domain and dns, not that I’m committed to them it’s just what I use. I then use protonmail for my email and point the relivent records to them.

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    There is a security risk of using your first name and last name in your email. It’s very easy for malicious people to send you emails specifically addressing you. I have realized it now and I take the extra steps to set up good spam blocking in my email.

  • 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Lots of people have said worthwhile things. Don’t selfhost email for example. While going with an email hoster has been recommended a couple times, which is good and easy, I want to offer an alternative: SimpleLogin (or comparable providers). Essentially a “email alias generator”, it forwards received emails to one or more mail addresses (Google, Hotmail, what have you). It also allows you to connect a domain and then create new inboxes on the fly by simply sending (or telling a service to send) an email to that non-existing inbox. Which is incredibly handy if you’re faced with a situation that demands an email, where you don’t want to give out an actual email.

    So say you have the domain doe.com, and you’re in a physical shop at the register, faced with the question if you want to get 10% off by registering for their members club. You can simply give the cashier the email “coupon_walmart@doe.com” (which does not yet exist), the email will be sent, received bei SL, the inbox created and the coupon code forwarded to your Gmail account. Afterwards, you can disable or delete the inbox and never have to worry about newsletters or data breaches. Nifty!

    Every one of these boxes also has its own “sent from” address visible in your actual mail account. Which means that you can simply respond to incoming emails, and the recipient will see the mail address they sent a message to. This also means that you can set up filters in your mail account to move messages from certain sender addresses into specific labels, as if they were real separate email accounts.

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      2 years ago

      Very interesting. How long have you used this? Has it been reliable the whole time?

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        I’ve been using it for around 1.5 years, and so far I’ve received every message I’ve wanted to receive. Though I am always sort of aware that they are yet another party I depend on with my mail delivery, so I don’t usually use them for crucial services.

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          SimpleLogin

          So people must also acknowledge and agree that the solution can read their messages. I guess your use case is junk mail. If OP is looking for an external email for regular use, this might not be a good solution?

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            Email encryption, as far as I know, is to this day rarely implemented. So your host as well as any entity in between participants will be able to read your messages. SimpleLogin is also provided by Proton if that means anything to you.

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              Nice. Yeah, keeping in mind Google/Microsoft have their algorithm/ad stuff going through your messages, we usually just count on them not committing fraud directly against us :)

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    2 years ago

    As someone who is once again trying to setup an email server, it’s more work than it’s worth for like 99% of people

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    Cloudflare sells domains at cost. If you use apple devices and pay for iCloud+ ($1.99 a month for the cheapest plan), you can get email hosting for your domain for the entire family + a catch all address.

    You can run an email host yourself but it is going to cost more in time and effort to maintain than just paying for hosting. It’s not very professional if your messages go to spam due to low reputation or if you miss a message/someone gets a bounce back because the container running your mail server was down and you didn’t realize

    Run mail on a custom domain for fun, to learn what it takes, but don’t do it for mail that really matters

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    Based on my personal experience, id say gmail, you only need a domain I used namecheap without any issue. You register with that on google, some settings you set on namecheap , it guides you all the way then you pay the lowest monthly fee, I pay 5.20 euros per month for my company’s mail.

    You set up a main email then you can setup any number of aliases for yourself I think, you can also create group emails and assign yourself to it

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    I use both. I have a self hosted docker compose instance of mailcow, which alerts me when an update is available.

    I also use protonmail as well.

    Self hosting was a pain in the ass to get working, but I’ve had no issues with it once up. I tossed it behind a reverse proxy to keep it from directly touching the internet.