• themusicman@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    “If you’re on the fence about the sequel, though, I’ve gotta say that it’s really the performance updates you’re going to want to watch for, because woof does this game run badly.”

    Yikes

    • DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world
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      3 years ago

      Considering the original that came out 10 years ago still eats up my overclocked octocore entirely unmodded and with several DLC disabled, I’m equal parts not surprised and highly concerned. They’ll get it down eventually, but this is one of the issues that Unity always seems to have with most performance heavy simulation games, regardless of whatever tech they throw at the situation (Burst compiled multithread tasks, DOTS ECS, C#/MSIL to native, etc). The engine is just too bloated and has way too many packages by default for this type of resource intensive game.

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    3 years ago

    Well yeah…gotta sell the DLCs same happens with other games like the Sims.

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    3 years ago

    Well obviously. It’s a new game and adapting the DLC would be costly. Is CS going to face this ridiculous critique that people apply to The Sims all the time too?

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    3 years ago

    Dude it’s Paradox. They’re the 3rd most dlc-greedy company after EA and Train Sim. Wait until the dlc goes to at least 50% off or just skip it. They’ll keep doing it if it keeps being profitable. Don’t just pay full price ever, especially brand new. Have a little self restraint.

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      3 years ago

      Discounts aren’t enough. Don’t buy DLC at all.

      If nobody pays for it, it goes away.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        3 years ago

        IDK, I like Paradox’s DLC policy. It sure beats paying full price every year or two for a simple refresh. Their games fit really well into a continually developed model, and they need something to fund continued development.

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      3 years ago

      Paradox has long maintained a DLC policy based around their permanent improvement and development of their games. I don’t get what is greedy about genuinely expanding their games with content that wouldn’t have been in the base game and charging money for it. Some of the DLC may indeed be on the more expensive side, but calling their entire policy greedy is simplistic and just trying to bunch them in with companies trying to rip you off. Sure, there’s been cases where some of Paradox DLC has been egregious, but frankly, the standard case is that they clearly added onto the game that otherwise wouldn’t have been there at all.

      To propose one of the titles where this works best is Stellaris. I genuinely mean it, take a look at that games post release development and tell me that Paradox is being genuinely greedy. Just because something is long term profitable doesn’t make them necessarily immoral.

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    3 years ago

    Only dumbasses and entitled people would expect a brand new game to have total feature and asset parity to a game that had 10 years of updates, DLC and freaking mods.

    I honestly feel confident CS2 will become a much more complete and better city builder than CS1. And from everything I’ve seen (haven’t played it yet), it’s already better in many ways. Like MIXED ZONING. That’s so major I barely care for anything else tbh.

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      3 years ago

      EDIT: Softened my statements because I didn’t like them on reread.

      This COULD become the Sims equation problem all over again. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt until I’ve tried it.

      The Sims 3 with all expansions is simply a much better game overall than Sims 4 base game. And since there’s no “sequel story”, you basically just have a “lower quality rerelease”

      I can’t find accurate purchase/play figures, but Sims 4 pivoting to F2P last year supports my thoughts on that. In terms of quality, a HD graphics DLC would have been a better value and made them more money.

      Except not, because having fewer players give them more money seems to be the new model. More power to em. I really wish “Life By You” wasn’t the only Sims alternative coming out. Paradox is definitely much better than EA, but they’re not perfect either.

      • LucidNightmare@lemmy.world
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        3 years ago

        There’s also Paralives in the works too! I hope they all succeed so they can make EA start sweating before they release a very obviously worse Sims 5. 🙏