• Pxtl@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    52
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 years ago

    Honestly, I have trouble seeing these “sequels” as new games. I mean Overwatch 2 was mostly a heavy balance patch, graphical patch, and pivot to F2P.

    These are just large updates where they incremented a number in the name. With that in mind, this isn’t a “trend”, it’s been going on for as long as these service-style games have existed. Fortnite’s pivot from Save the World into Battle Royale, for example. Or going further back: Remember Star Wars Galaxies?

    Yes, these mega-updates are often regressions… again, that’s not news. The only thing “new” is realizing “oh, we should increment the number to get some hype going”.

    • Sordid@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 years ago

      Or going further back: Remember Star Wars Galaxies?

      The game that was shut down less than a week before Star Wars The Old Republic released? You’re not wrong about the other stuff, but this one definitely wasn’t just a big patch.

      • Pxtl@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        2 years ago

        No, I’m referring to the New Game Enhancements update that completely reworked SWG to play more like WoW. That was a much larger gameplay change than Overwatch 2 or CS 2.

        • scottywh@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 years ago

          Man… I miss SWG sometimes.

          My Steam avatar is still to the day my SWG character.

          It’s the only MMORPG I ever paid a monthly subscription to play.

  • Amiss3209@lemmynsfw.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    53
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    2 years ago

    i mean, it’s not a sequel in the cs2 case, it the sane game, the mechanics, just newer engine, it’s not perfect but it’s just valve being slow lol

  • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldBanned from community
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    2 years ago

    You cannot be allowed to be content with what you already have and like. You need to buy more, buy now, buy new!!!

    Consume! Buy our game as a service so we can rake you over more hot coals as we bastardized your nostalgia for profits.

      • 9bananas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 years ago

        ow2 is a free alpha release, and sc2 is over 10 years old and hasn’t received any major content in at least 4 years…

        plus sc2 co-op commanders had a bundle deal right before development got dropped for the game, but now, years later, blizzard expects you to pay a full 15$ per commander to unlock!

        and obviously there’s no way to unlock them through gameplay…

        so one of the two is straight up worse than the one it replaced, and the other is stupidly expensive given how ancient it is.

        great examples, really.

  • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    2 years ago

    I mean, EA started doing this as soon as they thought they could get away with it in the franchises that are the most obvious fit: sports games. Madden, NBA 2kX, PGA whatever…

    At first, gamers would just feel left behind because there was a new title out to match the new season’s roster of teams and players. No one batted an eye because that echoes how live sports keep up annual appeal. But over time, the publisher started taking the servers offline for the older sports games, so if you wanted to compete then the only option was to play a newer title.

    I’m not saying that’s inherently evil, and not to make a slippery slope argument, but it’s not really hard to see how the lure of steady recurring revenue would drive the industry to do the same for as many franchises as possible. And here we are today where IIRC you can’t play titles like Diablo IV offline even as a single player.

    IMO as gamers, we need to collectively draw a line in the sand. But we’re such a diverse group with different tastes and expectations, so I don’t really see that happening.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      2 years ago

      But over time, the publisher started taking the servers offline for the older sports games, so if you wanted to compete then the only option was to play a newer title.

      I’m not saying that’s inherently evil

      As someone who remembers when games used to ship with the server code so you could host your own multiplayer, I am saying it’s inherently evil!

      • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 years ago

        Well damn, I remember that too and it’s a good point. You changed my mind, shutting down the only servers is shitty and evil and game companies should go back to allowing community servers.

  • Steeve@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    2 years ago

    CS:GO is over a decade old and certainly isn’t “killed”, does the author just not want new games to be released ever? I feel like everything posted nowadays is ragebait.

    • Stuka@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      2 years ago

      I mean CSGO turned into CS2 in my steam library.

      So CSGO effectively doesn’t exist anymore. I say ‘killed’ is accurate

      • Steeve@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        15
        ·
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        It was a free update/upgrade for CS:GO. That’s like saying v2.0 killed v1.9.

        Also, major upgrades for free ten years after release is frankly unheard of. This isn’t a “trend”

      • PoppyJalopy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        12
        ·
        2 years ago

        You can still open csgo by selecting it from the beta tab on CS2. Can still join community servers on there through to the end of the year iirc

        Doubt valve will have ironed out this forced open beta by then though

        • Lojcs@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          2 years ago

          They won’t shut down the game at the end of the year. They just said they won’t be maintaining it / ensuring compatibility

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 years ago

      does the author just not want new games to be released ever?

      It is impossible to give this an appropriate answer in any forum that demands “civility” over honesty.

      The censored version is: no. And you fucking know better.

  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 years ago

    Overwatch got significantly worse for me but I love all the changes to CSGO, so it’s a mixed bag for me so far.

  • EfreetSK@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    I mean … Pikachu face? :)

    So people switch to service based solutions for movies, games, music, … where they own literally nothing because the actual owner is the corporation which sort of ‘rent it’ to them. And then they’re surprised that provided stuff gets demolished by ‘landlord’ because it doesn’t bring enough money to the landlord

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      2 years ago

      Yeah it’s totally our choice, it’s just that simple. /s

      I remember when I bought half life 2. A hard copy in a store. Then, suddenly, to play it I was required to use some thing called steam. According to you, by playing that game, which I bought normally, I brought this on myself. According to reality I was just trying to play a game. For years I hated and resisted steam and all that did was make playing games harder. I finally gave in and life is honestly much easier because of it. I’m still bitter about being strong armed and the potential for steam to fuck us all over, but I never really had a choice if I wanted to play certain PC games, namely half life 2.

  • DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    As someone who mostly plays offline single player games, I don’t really care what they “kill” by creating new enshittified versions of things. I already cultivated a save version of the game I like, it’s installed on a pc that rarely or never goes online that you can’t access and deactivate, and since you spent my 40 bucks already as per our agreement, I’ll enjoy it whenever I want forever without your input or any future consent required from your company. Cope.