I should actually be working 8h a day, but most of it is spend not working. If I’m honest I’m probably working more like 3h a day even though I enjoy my job.
It fluctuates based on workload, but I find myself working anywhere from 4-5 hours a day to basically nonstop during my workday (9 hrs). I do think most people are really only capable of doing “good” work, meaning being at their most productive, for about 3 hours a day though. The rest of the time is spent slogging through and putting out mediocre work, just to get it done.
The same for me (but 8 hour workday). Honestly, I couldn’t do the job if the working non-stop days were the default. I am wasted after such a high-stress day, so I need it to fluctuate. I also don’t feel bad on days where I do less, because I know I do a 110% on the other days. A workday is simply too long to be productive the whole time and the workload usually varies.
I work in an office 40 hours a week 8 hours a day Monday to Friday. Let me clarify, though.
No matter who asks that’s my answer and that’s how I expect to be paid for my time. There are days where I don’t have as many tasks to do and maybe I don’t have something to do here and there but during my scheduled time I’m always available if something comes up. If I’m making myself available that’s still working. If I can’t just leave work or just ignore things on my to do list then I’m working. I think more people need to think of it this way. Just because you’re not actively working on a task every second of working hours doesn’t mean you’re not working.
Edit: just wanted to add that working on your skills especially with something related to your job that doesn’t necessarily complete a task for work also counts as time worked in my eyes as well as my boss. I’m very open about training time and always keeping on top of my craft. Not sure if this is normal but it ought to be.
The other point of view is that we should work like 2 or 3 days in a week, or better, something like 20h, with no overload of work and no lower pay.
Maybe your work requires you to be available, but when some people spend hours on pause or chatting on the phone they are not available.
Developing strategies to avoid boredom and keep your wages because we are enslaved 40h per week should not be something we have to fight for. But I admit the situation may be very different depending on where you live. One fight at a time.
I completely agree. It’s definitely a slow battle. I’m just happy that my situation at work is as good as it is. I still think in general I’m under paid and I would also like to work less days in a week but I think it’ll be a long time before that’s the norm. If it ever happens. The least I and everyone else can do is to set realistic expectations and boundaries.
My last job was very bad at this. They were horrible with working around people’s schedules and getting days off was very difficult. My current job is the complete opposite. To be fair I got really lucky but I also think it shows work life balance is becoming more important to employees and in turn employers have to respect it or people won’t work for them. To give some context my current job allows me to request time off up to 24 hours before my normal schedule WITHOUT any type of approval. I can work around my schedule in almost any way I’d like and I can call off sick without needing to give a reason let alone provide a doctor’s note. This is how it should be for all jobs but I think we’re a long way from that.
Same, as a programmer I would guess 2-3h at most. I mean actual coding with that, meetings and discussions take up the rest of the day.
For me, 2 hours of meetings, 1 hour of actual work.
Meetings are so draining, we should get rid of them.
When I used to work in the office I probably worked about 5 hours a day at most. The rest was spent on personal projects, fucking around, whatever
Now that I work from home it varies between two and four.
My production is exactly the same.
Same, I honestly spend most of my days in my home lab working on personal stuff and then grind out work when I need to. My production is still higher than all my immediate team mates and my boss consistently praises my efforts. I have pretty bad ADHD so this sporadic burst working is what works best for me. That being said i’m on call support so of course if a call comes in that gets responded to immediately as I am never out of earshot of my work PC and phone during work hours even though I may be actually on my personal PC.
Recently I took over a project two people have been working on and have just done it myself, the timeline for completion has also moved up a month with just me doing it. My co workers aren’t lazy, I just find that I know how to batch things together efficently and kill a flock with a boulder so to speak. Frankly my brain inscentivizes me finishing stuff fast.
This is what middle managers and c suite at my company that miss lording over cubicles don’t get, I am literally more efficient at home in my own environment without distractions, but also contrary to their beliefs I am not shut off from collaboration. I always answer calls and constantly run training sessions for our new hires and my co workers on my methods. This is all a bullshit way to get us back under their thumb.
About 7.5 hours out of an 8 hour shift. I work a job where I am physically actually working the entire day except for my breaks. I work in healthcare.
Sometimes I wish I had an office job because I hear things like this and sometimes get a bit jealous. But I am still satisfied with my job and I feel that I am compensated well.
Office jobs also vary greatly. I work an office job and yesterday I worked about 12 hours with a 1-hour break to drive from one office to another. I typically work through lunch and still find myself overwhelmed with too much to do.
But the one hour “break” isn’t really a break. It’s traveling time
Yep, and that’s how I log it in my hours, too.
On a personal level, I just find driving very relaxing because it’s one of the few times I feel like I can just be alone, so it always feels good having to drive somewhere for work knowing I’m just running the clock (which…I usually end up exceeding anyways…)
Personally I find driving exhausting. Especially in a car and in a city.
Curious what field exactly, from rotations in residency and previous experience it seems to vary wildly.
The ED is non-stop action, sometimes more work than you should reasonably be doing probably. But in regular wards it seems that I had my work done about 3-4 hours into the shift most days and then I was just sitting around waiting for an admission or some results back.
Similar experience doing nursing in neuro before I got my MD, of the 24h hours I would reasonably work like 1/3 of that and most of the rest was downtime, usually I would sleep through most of the night too.
I’m not a physician. I work in the laboratory grossing surgical specimens. Our work never stops. There are almost always cases to complete, except for some rare days where there is a lull in cases before the end of my shift (typically the night before certain holidays if they stop doing surgeries…or sometimes a bunch of surgeons will take their vacations at the same time lol). This does also mean that I get to have standard holidays off, unlike a field like nursing or any role in the ER.
It varies, though. Some labs are very slow where you actually do get a fair amount of downtime and some are even busier and more bustling than mine. I’d say we are a fairly busy lab, but we don’t generally get ultra complex surgical resections like hospitals even larger than mine do. We still do get large cases, just not things like pieces of people’s faces, etc.
It’s an interesting field.
You mention that you had a lot of down time in nursing, but I’d say I depends on the field and facility with that too. My mom is a nurse and has had nursing jobs similar to how you described. She said she would get a lot more downtime when she worked in large hospital settings and worked overnight. Usually overnights seemed to be the quietest. But then she was worked other types of facilities where she really hardly has time to sit down and take much of a break.
Even at my hospital, some of our pathologists will manage to fly through their cases and head out early (our director manages to make it so he always has a lighter caseload than the rest lol)…while others are always working late into the night working on additional duties like tumor boards.
So ymmv depending on what role and what type of facility you’re at yeah.
Even though I work all day, I think I have a good work-life balance and really enjoy being at work with my coworkers.
I used to make 80k in a career I hated working 55 hours a week (salary). I now make 50-75k (lots of OT available) working about 20 hours a week and watching Kodi/listening to audiobooks the rest of the time. I feel like I definitely upgraded.
Just curious about what your former job was and what your current job is
I was in corporate middle management and now I am a plant operator at a water treatment facility. I also had a crap 401k after 15 years of max contribs at the last job whereas now I’ll retire with a decent pension.
I refuse to begin any new tasks in the final 2 hours of my day.
In the first 6, I work anywhere from 0 - 100% of that time. Rarely more than 50.
I only really do work in the last two hours of the day.
And in the first when I need to quickly fix an issue
nice try boss
Where is everyone getting these jobs? Even if it’s slow I am still doing my job every few minutes unless systems are down.
I’m in healthcare so 8 hour day probably has 9 hours of work in it. Lunch break if I’m lucky.
IT is fun, I do anywhere from 2 hours to 16 hours in my 8hr shift depending on what the day brings me. 16 hours is the extreme rare, of course, and either outage or project based.
Officially, it should be 7 hours a day. But normally I work 5-6 hours. The rest are wasted on distractions and context switching. But deep work (i.e. actually getting things done) is normally 2-3 hours.
I also count meetings and chatting with colleagues are actual work. Those sessions might seem superficial but the way we collaborate with others is also important.
You get 2-3 hours of deep work time EVERY DAY? I’m lucky to get that once a week.
It’s not that hard. I utilise Pomodoro techinque to set aside four 25m-40m sessions. Now it’s just the matter of discipline. I block all distractions (emails, texting, entertainment, etc.) and coalesce them into a period of time.
I don’t get that because I’m in a billion meetings, have to conduct interviews, help the more Jr folks on my team etc. It’s not that I’m bad at time management
As a software developer I do not count sitting in meetings as productive work. Maybe 2-3h a day on average I’m left alone, in a state of flow and am really getting stuff done.
I work 12h shifts as a healthcare provider. So about 13h.
I work 12 hour shifts doing 911 calltaking overnight. Call volume fluctuates wildly, as do the length of my calls. I’ve had nights where our supervisors get nervous that the phones aren’t ringing and start doing test calls to make sure everything is working right, and I’ve had nights where the phone never seems to stop. On average I probably handle in the ballpark of 100 calls a night to make it a nice round number.
In a perfect world, I could handle each of those calls in probably about 2 minutes or less if every caller is calm and cooperative, prepared to answer all of my questions, and the situation isn’t actively evolving while I’m on the phone, but that’s not always the case, I’ve had some extreme outliers I’ve been on with for over an hour, I have some that are less than a minute, and everything in between, so with no real data to back it up I’m going to say it averages to about 5 minutes a call to keep the math easy.
So about 500 minutes of actually being on the phone, or 8⅓ hours.
That actually sounds a bit high to me, I probably went a little high on both of my guestimates, but that’s probably pretty close when I figure in the other little stuff I have to do besides actually taking calls, re-listening to calls, adding additional notes once the call has ended, email, going over my QA reviews, training stuff, etc.
But except for the outliers when we get really busy, that’s mostly broken up pretty well. I usually get at least a couple minutes between calls, I get a few minutes to mess around on my cell phone, do some reading, and when things die down later at night I can even bust out my switch and game a little between calls. My agency doesn’t really care what we do between calls as long as we’re not being disruptive and can put it down when the phone rings.
