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Dude this article gives me work PTSD. I hate working for CEOs and stupid fucking managers. Open source forever.
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This is a good thermometer reading. I’m pretty sure many communities are prepared to extend this indefinitely if current plans aren’t reverted. I do believe him when he says
We absolutely must ship what we said we would.
I don’t know who the angry VCs are who get to pull his strings but if this gets their attention - it may or it may not - reddit might budge on things a bit.
At the end of the day the company is hopeless to make a profit with him at the helm. This memo sounds slightly nervous and lacks confidence. He has no clue what he’s doing.
It needs to affect revenue. To do that it needs to last.
Yeah last time an executive told me that it didn’t happen and he got fired within 2 years
Same. Angry VC money is a demon that’s not worth summoning.
My desire to open Reddit compulsively “will pass” too.
I deleted the app and removed it from my browser home screen. I noticed I was still habitually clicking on the icon when I opened Firefox.
While he’s probably right, the blackout is giving Reddit users the chance to return to old sources of news and entertainment, or encouraging them to try new communities like Lemmy. Ideally the blackouts continue, but I think the biggest threat to Reddit is a long-game when other alternatives become viable.
I’ve been using beehaw, but more important Feedly (RSS) because:
I can subscribe to YouTube channels, Reddit/Lemmy communities, and independent websites. That’s all my stuff in one place!
It’s algorithmically ranked, but I control the algorithm.
I can get to “inbox zero” and don’t re-see stuff I already read. No more doom scrolling.
I’ve love rss. I’m using feeder. I’ve ditched a lot of the things I use to go on like Twitter and Reddit. I’m mostly on discord, but that’s dwindling.
Still hoping all the mobile developers come together and make a competitor. I like Lemmy but hard to beat how Reddit is structured and the size of the communities is an advantage. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Reddit’s public offering be a disaster.
https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy
^^this is what you’re looking for!
Yes Christian should take apollos code and make it fediverse ASAP
He does not seem interested at the moment
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-private-apollo-christian-selig-subreddit
NP: I think that we are in an absolute moment of change for what you might call the Web 2.0 era. Have you thought about “I’m just going to take my users and go build a Reddit for ActivityPub”?
DP: Even more specifically, one thing a lot of users have been saying is, “We’re leaving Reddit; we’re gonna go to Lemmy and Kbin!” Those are the two that I keep hearing about. Is there a move that way that you think is real, that you might want to be part of?
Apollo dev: It’s tricky because, to a certain extent, that does sound really interesting. But with Mastodon, for instance, I love it, but I’ve seen so many people — even in the tech community, who totally have the means to make that move if they want to — who have just been too intimidated or just can’t get off Twitter for some reason. In the back of my head, I’m like, if these people who are much smarter than me can’t make that change, is this just like a short-term thing?
It’s hard for me to build another thing. If it just evaporated again, it would be like a double breakup. This has been so exhausting for the last few months. The amount of work it would take to port all the API endpoints over to Lemmy or Kbin or something, that would be a gargantuan amount of work that I’m not sure I have the capacity for. And then just the complexity of making it work. Long term, it’s a big question mark for me that, at this stage, I’m not sure I’m totally interested in pursuing. But it’s also one of those things where I completely wish it the best. And if something that was decentralized kind of became the norm, I think that would definitely be a win for everybody.
That’s sad. Maybe he can Open Source it as a deceased project then someone else can do the migration work.
Won’t pass for me. I’d rather quit social media entirely than be inundated with nfts, ads, and shitty UI. I’d pay a premium happily to not have to deal with that. But that’s not an option.
I’ll support whatever alternative seems best as long as it seems worthwhile. I like it here so far. Hope y’all stay and keep posting.
Tone deaf I see
This doesn’t surprise me, during the whole process they didn’t even try to pretend that they were listening.
The thing that really gets me is how poorly they communicated: slandering the Apollo dev, ignoring mod’s concerns, lying, not giving enough notice, and having the audacity to hold an “AMA” but answer basically none of the questions.
Like if you’re going to go through with this change at the bear minimum you could be professional about it. But they way they did it was very arrogant and impatient.
Wow the goddamn arrogance
Looking at the Blackout Tracker it seems a few subs have folded early - r/adviceanimals and r/travel being the largest. Also the news subs and random ones like r/movies or r/photoshopbattles never joined in - were they not on board of their own choice, or controlled from on high?
We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor.
There’s your answer on how it’s affecting reddit. May be it’s spez just bluffing, but I hope this is a wake up call for the two day blackout subs and they do it indefinitely.
Idk how this is possible either, almost every sub I subscribe to is black, why would that not impact rev?
If everyone who’s not using reddit was already using a 3P ad free app, it’s possible they’re saving money on bandwidth while still serving the same number of ads to the remainder who are still getting on
Did he just try to make it sound like Reddit employees are victims of hate crimes?? LMAO
