• @SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social
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    226 months ago

    Kinda tongue-in-cheek questions, but: Honey isn’t an animal body part, it isn’t produced by animal bodies, so if it is an animal product because bees process it, is wheat flour (for example) an animal product because humans process it? How about hand-kneaded bread? Does that make fruit an animal product because the bees pollinated the flowers while collecting the nectar?

    • @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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      126 months ago

      it isn’t produced by animal bodies

      Sure is, it’s concentrated bee spit with sugar. And spit is made of water and body cells.

    • @Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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      316 months ago

      Bees make honey for their hive. Honey also does indeed contain bodily fluids from the bees.

      The bread making human consents to you taking the bread (presumably). Breast milk and other human bodily fluids can be vegan for the same reason.

      And insects pollinate plants not because they use the fruit, but for the nectar. They don’t care what happens after they leave the flower.

        • @Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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          26 months ago

          I didn’t want to go into it in the original comment, but yes. It is a relevant debate whether it’s vegan to swallow another humans semen, or even saliva. And yes, it is, if the human consents. Consent is the more or less the basis of whether vegans find it moral to consume something. Humans can give consent to sharing their fluids. Other animals cannot.

    • @OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      16 months ago

      Well basically yes, tho would need to get into the topic of exploitation and all that if we are talking about if something is viewed as acceptable to consume.