1st panel quote from ENT s2e6 “Marauders” with images from s3e19 “Damage”

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I’ve watched TNG, VOY, and DS9 through several times over… Even watched TOS through at least once or twice.

    …never watched ENT all the way through.

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      I was in the same boat until recently. ENT from the end of S2 to the start of S4 is the real year of hell.

      Archer does a lot of dirt and many bad things happen to him. He’s kinda like the O’Brien of captains.

      I highly recommend to jump ahead to the xindi arc if you’re finding S1 too boring and gropy.

    • ummthatguy@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Season 4 has a lot of fun multi part stories and maybe 2 or 3 bottle episodes… there is no finale.

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        Nah, I’m currently re-watching Babylon 5 and then planning to re-watch Battlestar Galactica after that.

        I don’t think ENT is going to get a fouth attempt. I’m kind of impressed it never stuck. I don’t think I find any of the characters likeable enough.

        Hoshi and Trip are the most likeable, but they’re very American. In fact they’re all very American. Even Malcolm feels like an American idea of a stuffy British guy. I could picture any of them in a frat house.

        I might even go as far as to say, ENT is a Star Trek that makes no effort towards internationalism… And that the declining quality of Star Trek comes from a similar drift being repeated.

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          Dr. Phlox is the real standout. Open to exploring human cultures, but stands up for his own morals/priciples.

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            I don’t like his eyes or his voice, or that he gets more stretchy as the show goes on. I also don’t like that he’s the only heavily made up (make up wise) crew member. I don’t find him particularly likeable.

            I get that it’s part of the premise though, that ENT is trying to be a more coarse, and under developed Trek, so of course most aliens aren’t going to be signing up.

            Speaking of which, I’m not really a fan of the Xindi as the bad guys… it’s almost like, it’s all a Holodeck program Riker or someone is writing.

            /cough cough /

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              Seems like every time Phlox does something related to medicine it’s also extremely unethical, like creating Sim or unilaterally condemning a sapient species to death.

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          Don’t you know in the future, everyone is American? C’mon.

          i’m with Umthatguy, though. Phlox is my favorite.

          “<creepy smile> OPTIMISM, Captain!”

          I thoroughly enjoy sublte critques of humanity through the lense of “aliens trying to figure us out”. Like the bab5 scene where Londo sings the Hokey Pokey and gets irate because it’s a totally mid-tier song that 'everybody" knows.

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            Like the bab5 scene where Londo sings the Hokey Pokey and gets irate because it’s a totally mid-tier song that 'everybody" knows.

            “…and then they put their left hand out! They’ve undone their previous progress! It makes no sense!”

            It’s a great rant. Now I need a Babylon 5 rewatch. Thanks!

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      I made myself watch Enterprise so I could at least have an informed opinion. Did the same with Discovery and Picard, because i despise the chuds that parrot shitty opinions with zero actual experience.

      Its early seasons are marginally less insufferable than TNG’s comparative seasons. And by then, they had 19 fucking seasons of TNG, DS9 and Voyager to learn from. That says it all got me.