• Lizardom@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I was waiting to be seated at a restaurant Friday when I overheard the same sentiment but then took a hard right turn…

    “It never used to be like this” ‘i know’ “All the liberals stopped the logging in Canada and now look at them burn and here we are dealing with it.”

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        2 months ago

        The most important thing to them is their pride. They will literally prefer the world to be burnt down then give that up.

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        2 months ago

        Its just propaganda. The most effective of which seems to be false explanations and distraction conspiracies. Anything but allow people to see whats going on and who’s doing it.

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    2 months ago

    Nah, the actual problem is all the wind mills and solar panels. They’re screwing up the weather!!!

    (I seriously had a chud tell me this.)

  • Heikki2@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I grew up in Northern MI. 1989-2011. I do not recall any summer of wildfires smoke coming across the lake.

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      2 months ago

      In the 90s and early 2000s, we had lots of “smog days” in southern Ontario. Of course those were mostly from coal plants in Ontario and Michigan, not forest fires. I wonder if its related.

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    2 months ago

    We’re in the ‘FIND OUT’ phase of what happens when you clear cut an entire continent and replant our forests on a massive scale while thinking that ‘oh all that sequestered carbon will just be recaptured in the new trees we plant’. No - whats happening instead is - the trees we mass replanted don’t capture that carbon back at a rate we expect - I am pretty sure the forestry industry knows this - but hey profits right?

    Also I reckon if we have retained our old growth forests, it wouldn’t be this bad. It would still be bad, but at least our forests would be more resilient. As for those that have no idea what a old growth forest is - think massive trees that are wider than 2 cars at the base and that are over a thousand years old each at minimum. Go visit one when you have a chance - they are increasingly rare because governments are still fucking allowing logging companies to cut them down. Also, you’ll find they’re a lot more humid than young forests (~200 year old ones). It’s a travesty. In BC, for example, 97% of the province have been clear-cutted and our forestry industry likes to tout themselves as ‘sustainable’. It’s bullshit. What’s even crazier is that we got barely any industry other than shipping out raw lumber for processing elsewhere while we lose jobs and taxes on value added industries.

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    2 months ago

    Wildfires hitting a specific area is also just rare. I grew up in a wildfire-prone area and we only got significant smoke once. So not remembering any doesn’t really say anything meaningful necessarily.

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    2 months ago

    People spent decades preventing wildfires. Fires are a natural part of ecological systems. Overgrowth and a build up of litter cause more intense fires and increase their ability to spread. In northern regions, people were also preventing beavers from doing their thing that helps reduce wildfire spread. At least in Florida we pioneered controlled burns to simulate nature and save lives.

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      You have no idea what you are talking about, the forest in Ontario is bigger than Texas.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t know what you are talking about. I was just saying interesting things about ecosystems. Do you have questions?

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        2 months ago

        I don’t think many Americans understand how much of the Country is forests. In Quebec everything past the river plains north of A40 or 138 is forests.

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        2 months ago

        You’re not wrong. Indigenous regularly burned. Florida’s pioneering I mentioned was about policy. California still struggles to get it right.

        Thank you for your elaboration.

        -I had no idea people would hate sharing knowledge. Look at the downvotes!