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RIP to the Endangered Species Act
No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.
But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.
Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.
Oh god, keep the bamboo and kudzu in their native environments. The ecosystem has been through enough!
The bamboo is for the ruling class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_torture
We’re doing this to save the ecosystem from the data centers, silly! Let’s goooo!
In order to save the ecosystem, you must be willing to kill the ecosystem!
Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.
Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.
Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!
Kudzu is actually edible. It can also be used to make clothing and baskets. It improves soil by fixing nitrogen (it’s a legume) and prevents erosion. It’s so prevalent in the US because of its usefulness in preventing erosion. It can be used for animal feed. Issue is that it out competes native species, not that it isn’t useful
Oh no! Here comes Wisteria with the metal chain from the top rope!
But it looks so pretty!
It does, and it draws so many bumblebees. I skipped trimming ours for one season and in the fall I noticed it poking out the top of the 2nd story chimney, it had grown under the siding, ~40 feet (12.2m) in one spring/summer.
Some can smell so lovely, too!
that bamboo is gonna be a clintcher
Maybe, but kudzu is no joke, either. Ask the entire eastern coast of the U.S.
When I was in Alabama, my whole life felt like it revolved around 1 rule:
“Don’t turn your back on the Kudzu.”
My asshole of a neighbor planted a line of bamboo right on our fence line, so now once a week I have to go to my side yard and dig up roots or they’ll choke out my ac unit within months.
If you dig down about 2 foot (or several inches lower than the lowest root you find) and install a rubber barrier that goes from the bottom of the trench to up above the soil, it wont be able to spread to you anymore :)
You could use brick, stone, or cement, but if any cracks exist or form it’ll eventually find the way through, where that’s significantly less likely with a solid sheet of rubber.
And you think these assholes won’t just raze that stuff without a care in the world? Because they will. After that they’ll be sued which will end with a small slap on the hand, combined with “oh you!” and that’s it
It’ll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it’ll cost them to just ignore all that
Except no - starting elderberry shrubs is relatively easy. Not like scattering the berries on the ground, but sticking cuttings a couple inches into damp or wet ground in late fall works very well, with very good odds that they’ll be big enough to bear fruit in a year. It’s also very cheap if you have access to an existing tree.
Apparently you missed this in the research I’m sure you did before commenting on the cost, and strangely the people upvoting you seem to be making the same mistake. Probably AI’s fault. (ooooh, he’s defending AI - nope, just criticizing misinformation)
They are definitely going to either remove the Endangered Species Act entirely or just slowly keep dropping species from the list as and when it becomes convenient honestly
They’re literally shooting people in the head in the street. If someone chained themselves to a tree to stop construction they’d just saw the person in half. Hasn’t been a single consequence yet
Ah, well in that case we should all just give up. Stop trying, people! It’s already over!
Oh you misunderstand, I’m saying shoot first
Still doesn’t make him wrong. They will ignore it and receive little to no consequence. I also don’t understand the hostility, infact it fits the “erm actually” meme so well I suspect trolling.
Not sure what you mean by trolling but the hostility is toward the false expertise.
I think the word “relatively” in the previous comment is doing some heavy lifting.
If you are going to spend a few hours of your limited free time to plant the shrubs, even if the materials and transportation are free to you, compare that with the relative cost of a small environmental fine to a trillion dollar company building a billion dollar data center.
The people at the top might not even realize anything happened, if anything even does happen.
I guess the important thing is to treat hypothetical outcomes as certainties and base debates on them.
That’s my favourite statement of the day. I’m lucky I’d put my drink down or there’d be a mess everywhere.
Lmao they don’t even care about humans. You think they’d care about beetles and berries??
Yeah I’m sure the guys on the ground would “accidentally” start the diggers before they were “aware” of the Beatles and berries.
Watch them care, they’ll just bulldoze right over these
The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.
if today’s strategies are anything to go by : nothing is illegal if youre in charge
Haha maybe under a normal president, but this one hates regulation and safety. He LOVES money though.
Oops a completely accidental accident happened where a van full of pesticide accidentally crashed head on into the tree and exploded it. Accidentally. Oh well, I guess the build is back on at least.
even if that would be an obstacle, it would take mere hours for them to change the law and remove the protection altogether.
No? That’s not true at all.
Yeah, it takes longer than hours to pass a bill, I have no idea what they were on about.
It does not take hours to change a law, but it is very quick to ignore a law and mow down a field. Now, whether the law will prevent them from doing that is a different thing. Someone would have to notice that they’re going to build in a protected area, notify the police and contact them officially to notify the error.
At this point they may still ignore that, then you’d likely have to start a trial. If you’re lucky and you start the trial before they mow down the field, they’ll likely agree they made a mistake, pay for your lawyer and move to the field besides.
There’s no need to change a law to fix something as simple as paying a couple lawyers.
They will literally not care
They will simply cut whatever protections exist stopping it. Still do it, just don’t expect it to be a forever solution.
Kudzu
This is actually more likely to end with you in legal trouble yourself rather than stopping construction. Artificial planting is fairly easy to detect as it doesn’t follow natural population distribution, and won’t fall under the protection laws. If they can prove who did it, they can be charged with fraud
It’s pretty clear laws aren’t real anymore. Nothing will improve until these demons live in constant fear for their lives
Fear is temporary. Change is permanent.
i guess this gesture is even safe enough for weak americans
Please regale us with all your tales of arson and sabotage. Surely you have just one or two to share with the group?
I don’t live in the banana republic.
You want arson?
Today is the second day of protests where I live against budget cuts for education.
These are only the teachers, the most docile group of the population.
Europeans know how to fight for their rights.So yes, I will continue to ridicule the pathetic non-attempts of your subservient, embarrassingly weak population of sheep.
