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No fate but what we make. You can put in the effort to keep your mind and your ears open. Absolutely worth it IMHO.
Why should I bother when all the best music came out before I was 35?
Because some of that new music came came out before I was 35
Edit: Voyager is acting weird
Gosh, absolutely. I’ll go on a nostalgia trip now and again, but there are soooo many artists doing such fantastic things nowadays.
Absolutely! I’ve discovered some amazing modern artists, mostly via film and TV (streaming series) soundtracks, especially the latter.
yep. I’ve come across some super cool young bands that sound exactly like the albums I love from 40 years ago!
I try my best to do this, and find lots of great new music.
I still find a lot of new popular music just doesn’t do it for me, and I think it’s because as you’ve heard more music, the it’s harder to find something that sounds fresh.
When I was in the peak of that chart I was really into stuff like Spacehog, who seemed really cool to me at the time, but probably would have sounded a bit derivative to my parents. At the same time my dad loved Smashing Pumpkins enough to buy all their albums…
i keep discovering contemporanean artists whom I love. and I’m in the “back in my day” age.
Delilah Bon, Bob Vyllan, kneecap… give me more suggestions like them.
Not just music! (Though that is probably the strongest example)
It’s telling how many people are nostalgic for a society that only existed before they were born. Recent History education sucks.
I’m way too analytical to fall into that curve, and I’m sure most people on Lemmy are like that too. Like, we literally have data going back decades on most of these metrics, so why are people even going with their gut? Quite a few are literally numbers you can check!
But alas, your average nobody ignores data…
I’d be very interested to see the age distribution of the people who were polled. It just says 2000 adults, but if they were all around the same age then it may not all be matters of opinion, especially for things like “political division.”
Judging by the footnote, it’s YouGov which isn’t a very good poll typically. That said, it’s likely got enough people across ages to standardize it properly. They probably do have a larger amount in one demo vs another, but you can simply weigh them differently to balance it out.
There’s probably plenty wrong with their methodology if we dig deeper though; these polls aren’t very scientific typically. With political division, it could be how they were asked, for instance.
The one that surprises me is TV. It has objectively improved in quality so much, it’s basically on par with movies at this point. Writing, acting, costuming, all of it. I’d never claim that TV from the 90s was superior to now, even though I was a teen back then.
I will absolutely argue that TV was better between 2006-2016 than 2016-2026. I think the detailed ratings (especially on streaming) ended up feeding studio decisionmaking into shallower works that their algorithms suggested audiences would like, and that we lost something in the process. The collapse of mid budget basic cable original programming also has hurt the genre as a whole.
Also, there’s nothing quite like a high budget but mediocre show, that looks visually stunning but just doesn’t resonate with you.
TV now is kind of garbage because every show will have like 2 8 episode “seasons” with a 3 year gap in the middle. I appreciate the variety but it’s clear to me the industry hasn’t really recovered from the streaming era destroying the cash flow into the TV industry. The 90’s and early 2000’s are absolutely the peak of network TV IMO when it comes to big syndicated network shows like Star Trek Buffy stargate etc. but there are a much wider variety of shows today so it’s kind of a mixed bag
I feel like it has way more to do with how knowledgeable you were at the time. Kids generally don’t have the most critical eye for any of those things and most people don’t go back to see what they missed.
I just said to a friend this morning, “every kid’s favorite movie is the last movie they saw”
Keep your statistics to yourself, I’m over 40 and love discovering new music.
“No! You’re dumb and your opinions are poorly justified! You must listen to us instead!” - billionaire media
Gimme one! I’m the same way at 48!
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Why do I want to listen to the same shit I hear everywhere?! Give me new!
I’m only 31, but I really like bbno$, Sabrina Carpenter, AJR, and for non popular music and super queer, DAMAG3.
And then just a slew of random EDM whenever I’m in the mood.
But is any of it better than CCR?
Ditto. Im constantly finding new stuff. I think we all get a favorite music era for free since we start with none, but you gotta think about it and try to keep adding more. Takes approaching the new stuff with different points of view. New music often isn’t good for the situations you listen to your original favorites. Maybe you started with electronic dance. Ambient music isn’t gonna fit that goal and needs a new mentality and space to appreciate it.
I’m ‘only’ 26 and I’ve been having a blast going through Groundbreaking’s collection that they’ve released over the years. I only recently realized there was this whole archive like a year and a half ago, but I’ve actually been listening to some of the songs sold on other albums for much longer than that! I’ve been discovering artists that pique my interest and I’ll definitely look into them more once I’m all caught up.
And since I’m a huge rhythm game fan, I’ll often discover new music and artists through charts on the way. The only thing more exciting than finding a new song I really enjoy is listening to one of my favorite songs
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Bro I smashed the shit out the like button for angine de poitirne, and I don’t even think they’re human. How do I have nostalgia bias for music that isn’t from this dimension?
they’re an industry plant its the olsen twins
look into it
Investigate 311 bro
Source?
I don’t see any plants
They are fire
I’m right there with you.
I bet it was for you what it was for me…part “this is crazy unique”, part “AI can never do this” and “that’s a musical scratch for an itch I never knew I had”.
And ADHD and a gentle kiss of the 'tism.
Notice the graph peaks in the teens, when most people’s fun and social life also peaks. I was an introverted high school nerd and barely remember the music from that time, then in my late 20s got into doing theatre - suddenly had a thriving social life full of parties, dating, friends, fun… now it’s decades later and the music of that era is by far my favorite.
Oh shit. That explains it for me too then.
I wonder how you could adjust the whole graph based on connections to friends.
When people are under 10, they don’t have that much agency in choosing music. They just listen to whatever their parents listen to, or whatever their parents put on for them. In their teens they start getting to choose music and have a lot of classmates and friends who can be sources for hearing new music. In their early 20s that continues with university and/or first jobs. But, after a while that tails off and people have smaller social circles so they are introduced to fewer new things.
That could also explain why music from before people were born is somewhat popular. It’s something you might have been introduced to by your parents, or possibly by friends in your teens or 20s, or maybe something you discovered on your own later. When you’re 40+ you still might have people introducing you to music that existed before you were born, but you’re probably not being introduced to the new music very much. And if you are, it’s the popular stuff, which often sucks in all eras. Maybe if you have teenaged kids you hear what they like at some point, but that’s a small window, and often what they like is the popular gunk.
That’s really what I was thinking - that the graph probably wouldn’t change much if you remapped it to personal connections because the pattern of personal connections is probably what drives it in the first place. Hence my favorite musical era is when my connections peaked around age 30. Although tbh most of what I liked then and still do is what you would call “popular gunk” - never did care much for dismissing popularity as low quality. They often go together, but unpopularity and low quality also do.
There’s a reason why things are popular. People like it.
The only drawback is that to make a “Billboard #1” type hit, you need extremely broad appeal. So, often it’s stuff that nobody hates instead of something that people who know a certain niche genre absolutely adore. You’re unlikely to get a jazz song as a #1, or a twangy country song, or any song with lyrics that any group might find offensive,
Where the Party At? was senior year anthem. Bacardi is imprinted on me as the fun era
Somehow that reminded me of the birthday party my daughter organized for her husband. The theme was that he was running for President. She made campaign buttons with his face on them and the slogan, “Win or Lose, We Still Got Booze!”
Time is a very good filter of what’s worthy and what’s not. You’re living now and you’re witnessing good stuff, but you’re also witnessing bullshit before it’s had the chance of being forgotten. If you look back 40-50-60 years, will you think of The Beatles, ABBA, Freddie Mercury, Jimi Hendrix, or will you think of someone who maybe released a couple of songs or an album and dropped out of existence? Yes, I thought so.
Statistically, sure, but I’m forty and I keep finding new bangers.
I can find “new bangers”, but there’s also a whole lot of “holy shit, the kids have absolutely no taste in music”, which I think is a often what the olds think of new music. I think that’s the typical drop you see on the graph as people get older.
OTOH, to me the absolute worst era of music was the popular stuff coming out when I was 5-20 years old or so. That era just sucked. As a kid my general impression was “Holy shit, my peers have absolutely no taste in music”. It was only years later that I actually discovered music that was made during that time that I had never heard about. So, I suppose there was some good music back then, but it wasn’t the stuff that was on the radio, on TV, in the movies, etc. The best era for music, IMO, was 10-20 years before I was born. And, it isn’t even music my parents introduced me to. They had pretty poor taste in music too, and never played that stuff. I only found out about it decades later by exploring music on my own.
“How people who only ever listen to the music that’s played on the radio feel about music”
Man I must be an outlier apparently, I don’t listen to any of the music from my teens or even my twenties except in rare nostalgia trips. I’m constantly finding newly released songs that I like and even cringe at some of the music I liked as a youth. I don’t think I can even define an era of “best music” - there’re so many great songs across all music.
A few months ago I decided to listen to a few albums I used to be obsessed with as a teen. I just… didn’t feel anything anymore. The music used to vibe with my teenage angsty energy, but being in my 30s now it just doesn’t hit the same.
Meanwhile, I still rock out to classic rock and oldies from before my time. I was just singing Steve Miller Band and The Beatles on my way home from work - no radio, just felt like singing.
Though some stuff I listened to in my youth is more relevant now than ever. Songs written during the Bush era criticizing politics are as cathartic to scream out as they used to be…
Same. I’ll rarely put on music from my teen years (90s for me), but for the most part I’m listening to stuff released from the past 5-10 years, or older stuff I’ve recently discovered from before my time. There is great music (and shit) from every decade.
There was a period in my life where I didnt have time to listen to new music and I thought I could get by on Metallica, maiden, misfits, and (at the time) my favorite band, Fear factory. I distinctly remember telling people, I’ll listen to this til the end of my days, I don’t need more.
Then covid happened and I was stuck at home, no longer interrupted by random work or life stuff when I picked what music I put on for hours, and it got stale (No shit). And I started to listen to so much more.
Now my wife and I go to multiple shows a week, hearing all the latest and coolest shit from our local scene (SF); we tell all of our friends: $BAND is coming in 6 months, buy your tickets now, it’ll sell out. Or: free show on Saturday, want to come?
We are on friendly terms with members from multiple local bands, we go to album release shows, we get signed merch just by being chatty/friendly, we are helping bands, promoters/venues book with each other by putting them in touch.
Honestly it’s pretty incredible. When someone says “there’s no good music these days” or “rock/metal is dead” i just ask them… “Well what are you into? I can recommend something”. Because they’re so wrong…And if thry see what I see, they’d never say that in the first place
The fuck? Fontaines DC, Tyler Childers, Janelle Monae, Leon Bridges, I have never stopped finding new music I love. This graph makes no sense. Modern music is so good. Old music is so good. I do not have a preference for any particular time period when it comes to enjoying music.
as if this chart had the centuries of data needed to be meaningful
it also needs centuries to express my music tastes
There’s been great music forever, there will continue to be great music forever.
The hard part is finding it.
I think it’s exposure, you hear about a lot more music in high school. Now I get exposed to new music mostly by the radio (you can throw streaming algorithms in here) and it’s shitty pop/rap music that they play. Like if my 90s exposure to rap was limited to Vanilla Ice then I wouldn’t care for it either.
You need to stop, collaborate and listen!
The new Boards of Canada album came out a few days ago so I have no idea what this chart is taking about.
I went to a listening party for that last Friday, was a good time. Though, I’m never gonna put that on intentionally, it felt really… Idk, passive? Like a score for a movie where the music isn’t really “the point”. Great for background. I don’t mean to be disparaging; I’m more of a metal guy so it just wasn’t my thing.
That’s fair.
Personally I really enjoy listening to BOC actively but you might enjoy it more if you put on one of their older albums like Music Has A Right To Children while on a scenic drive.
Edit: or take some LSD
Isn’t that proof?
They’re not new artists.
And there are millions of people making music, of course there are exceptions to the general trend.
But thanks for the tip. Dusting off my chromatic dreamcoat and checking it out right now.
