Doesn’t that create a huge vulnerability in that the enemy can just go under the ship and shoot up? Seems like they could have at least put 1 or 2 on the underside.

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    Additionally, there’s smaller turrets all over the ship to counter smaller fighters and bombers.

    Right but, if I were captaining a Mon Cala cruiser, I’d position my ship with my main guns towards the hangar side and where their main batteries couldn’t hit me because I was on the other side of the ship.

    For the fighters/bombers, the enemy ships have their own escorts of X and Y wings too.

    During the Clone Wars the Venators usually weren’t deployed alone if they were meant to go into fleet combat. Often there were multiple Venators and depending on the job Acclamators, too.

    Acclamators kinda made sense in their design as they were basically really big landing craft, and they’d need a place for the landing gear to be stored/deployed from, and they’d be escorted by Venators.

    But, Venators? They were extra weak on their underside because the hangar to launch fighters was up at the top along the length of the ship (top = side that was opposite from where they’d set down in a ship yard’s dry dock like in Episode 3 where Obi was leaving to confront Grevious).

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      Right but, if I were captaining a Mon Cala cruiser, I’d position my ship with my main guns towards the hangar side and where their main batteries couldn’t hit me because I was on the othef side of the ship.

      I just noticed that you mean the Quad Turbo lasers, the big guns on the top side. Turbolaser are the general combat armaments. Those are quite evenly spread around the ISDs, both above, below and in the “trenches” along their sides, and used for shooting at anything, Asteroids, fighters, ships. The Quad Turbolasers were the heavy armaments they’d use on long range stand-off/line fighting. Usually ships started combat out of range and then moved closer, so getting below the ship without it noticing or rotating was hard, especially so for a ship of the MC-series.

      For the fighters/bombers, the enemy ships have their own escorts of X and Y wings too.

      That’s also what the turbolasers are for. And the TIEs

      But, Venators? They were extra weak on their underside because the hangar to launch fighters was up at the top along the length of the ship

      I am not sure this is the case. In Clone Wars we saw a Venator using its underside to shield the top side and hangar against a blockade of Munificent cruisers. While they did most likely angle their shields their as well, it would hardly make sense to even do if the underside was specifically weak.

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        I just noticed that you mean the Quad Turbo lasers, the big guns on the top side.

        Right! The really really big ones. I though they were the turbos and the smaller ones werd just turrets of some sort. My bad!

        While they did most likely angle their shields their as well, it would hardly make sense to even do if the underside was specifically weak.

        Right, but the shielding is the key word. I wasn’t saying it was weak in that it couldn’t have an inventive use. I meant weak in that it had less offensive capabilities for a line fight like at the start of III. I mean, you could eventually cut someone in half with individual sheets of paper doing paper cuts over and over. But using a saw would be more practical.

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          Right! The really really big ones. I though they were the turbos and the smaller ones werd just turrets of some sort. My bad!

          No worries, the normal turbo laser turrets are relatively small compared to the Quads and especially to the size of an ISD.

          Right, but the shielding is the key word. I wasn’t saying it was weak in that it couldn’t have an inventive use. I meant weak in that it had less offensive capabilities for a line fight like at the start of III. I mean, you could eventually cut someone in half with individual sheets of paper doing paper cuts over and over. But using a saw would be more practical.

          That’s true, though in that case you move away. Unless both ships have the exact same speed and heading, they’d diverge relatively quickly. Line fighting usually involves constant movement. So unloading a broadside or two probably doesn’t do that much.

          Oh, and I just had a quick look at the fight. So apparently the Venators have a big death laser around the lower hangar section. At minute 2:50 it is used to blast a Munificent apart. It might very well be, that it is the same type of weapon used by the Empire for Planetary Bombardments, or purpose built for the Clone Wars.

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            So apparently the Venators have a big death laser around the lower hangar section. At minute 2:50 it is used to blast a Munificent apart.

            The only time I remember seeing a giant gun out the bottom of the capital ship was in the sequels where a Sith Star Destroyer had a miniature Death Star cannon that was used to destroy a plannet. So, forgive me for asking, but what episode are you talking about that 2:50 mark?

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                Oh Right! Its right at the 1:00 mark (film footage time, not including introductory text).

                Well, it was more just a weird laser beam (didn’t actually see a cannon barrel), but I’ll give it to you.