me like use nano. nano say how do thing. nano exit easy.
The image is misleading. The brain sizes represent the amount of grey matter it takes to operate the editor. The nano guy has plenty of brain power left over for things like hygiene, breathing and basic reasoning.
vim guy, emacs guy look big brain. me brain smol. me bathe yesterday, thank you.
Vim users: “I feel bad for you”
Nano users: “I don’t think about you at all”
Nano users :
Me no think
OP suggests otherwise.
Oh yeah? Well this says otherwise.
micro enters the chat.
Static, portable binary with no dependencies.
Out of the box:
- Syntax highlighting
- Multi-line cursors like Sublime Text
- Mouse support (works incredibly well)
- Splits and tabs for working on multiple files
- Diff gutter
- Copy and paste with system clipboard
- Cross-platform (runs basically on anything that Go does)
- Sane key binds (ctrl-s, ctrl-c, ctrl-v, ctrl-z, ctrl-x, etc)
- Terminal emulator
- Plugin system to extend it
- And much much more
I have nothing to do with the project but this binary is the absolute best. curl or wget to any host and away you go with effectively a Sublime Text / VSCode like in the terminal. It’s as simple as nano and as functional as a well configured and extended vim.
It’s baffling it’s not more well known and not installed by default on major distros.
How many Linux distros include micro in their minimal image? Vim, emacs, and nano are good because I can connect to just about any container or Linux VM and expect to have all of them available.
Let’s say I have a test that always passes on my machine but fails in CI. If I can get a terminal on the test runner, I can open up my test code in vim, add extra logging and error handling, and rerun the test to check my fix.
I am not going to install additional editors in a VM that will be recreated next time I push a code change. If I am setting up a development environment for long term use, I will install my favorite IDE and configuring all the bells and whistles.
the same old argument that anal sex is good because it works on more people
you might appreciate it, but being preinstalled is not the selling point you think it is. I spend hundreds of times longer in the editor than installing it. I want something good while I’m using it. I don’t care if it takes me 30 seconds to install, and maybe no one should.
Most include micro iirc
I use micro. It’s 1000x better.
Pico…I’m going the wrong direction
Ugh. At least two decades I’ve used them and never made that connection. Thank you. And curse you. lol
Peta
I was coming here to say “what about micro?”
Doesn’t come standard like nano tho for a lot of distros
barely an inconvenience, you’re one curl away from it
Assuming you have internet access lmao
idk if I ever set up a new machine without internet access, but sure
there are corner cases you’ll need to use what’s available. They should be exceptions.
Fortunately, every computer comes equipped with an “exit editor” button. It’s on the back, attached to the power supply unit. You just flick the switch. Exits every editor known to humanity. /j
Ah, the famous NCIS way of exiting editors.
Thanks, I hate it!
Honestly nano is perfect for quick edits. Vim and Emacs are powerful, but sometimes you just want to open a config file, change one line, and exit without fighting the editor. 😄
This is what i use vim for. Vim doesn’t necessarily have to be a full blown ide with 30 plugins
Some real talk.
Can we just include the 4 most popular text editors on basic systems??
Like i wanna scream when there isnt my text editor installed on a lightweight distro.
Vi Emacs Micro Nano
For context,
Debian ships with nano and vi Openwrt only ships with nano
Like cant we just include small editors. In a perfect world i would want neovim installed. But i understand its larger and has alot more dependency’s.
So having VI isnt as good but im willing to be reasonable.
JUST INCLUDE VI
the reason i learned vim is because VI is installed by default on almost every distro.
Im tempted to try emacs tho
It’s important to learn how to use package managers. :)
EMacs is an operating system masquerading as an editor.
For OpenWRT Nano is a good choice. Nobody spends hours in a text editor on that system. You can ssh into it and use any fancy editor with a million plugins installed on your own computer.
Emacs macros are sooo nice.
Madness lies in that direction.
No love for vim?
vim is just vi in drag
I used some distro with vim back in the day and I just kept using it. I lose my shit when I use something with just nano and my muscle memory tries to do a vim thing.
I don’t get why there’s so much prejudice towards nano users in the Linux community, people act like nano is useless but it performs its job well, and it does it without being large or overly complicated.
Just use ed.
Ctrl+D. Easy.
bash: ed: command not found
WHERE GOD NOW?
What sins have you committed on your system to remove ed?
fastfetch | grep ackage
Packages: 2530 (dpkg), 21 (flatpak)me no remove package. me start with vanilla debian install. no need gui until me choose to install gui.
Please file a bug with the Debian maintainers.
How are people supposed to edit files without the standard editor?
with nano? /uj maybe it was an option during the install, IDK, I don’t want to bother the folks with a suspicion and a shitty memory, nor do I want to reinstall deb somewhere else
I was joking, definitely don’t write them to install an editor that’s obsolete.
sed and grep (both inspired by ed) to do most of what ed does in a modern way, and ed was only useful over teletype when it was slow/expensive to render a scrollable field.
All modern TTYs support scroll regions, and with sed it just doesn’t make sense to use ed anymore.
ed as the standard editor is mostly a meme based on this page https://wiki.c2.com/?EdIsTheStandardTextEditor
using arch, btw
actually using debian btw
but… but… Ed is the standard editor 😦
Gedit users be like
nano is usually built in. Adding another one is just redundant if all you’re using it for is editing an occasional config file.
Honestly never understood the hate for it. Who cares? Petty, stupid, nerd-wars over little crap like a text editor is the reason average people don’t even consider linux.
I very rarely see people hate nano (except a few comments in this thread), and I always see nano recommended as the text editor when people give advice on doing things in the command line
I see vim preinstalled more than nano (e.g. in container images). I’ve been trying to convert to micro, though. It has better support for terminal emulators than nano.
That has to come from someone who doesn’t know the bliss of micro
Linux text editor discourse has been baffling to me for decades now. I don’t care which you use, and I care even less about why.
Emacs is a table saw, vim is a chainsaw, nano is a scissor. Every problem those 3 solve is a differently sized single sheet of paper.
HAHAHA HAHAHA
announce to the world you know fuck-all about either, lol
