• frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    World appears to be solid/stable at first but on closer inspection is actually vibratory.

    It’s ok to have points of agreement. You don’t have to mock and bicker 100% of the time.

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      2 months ago

      People who believe in “auras” and actually think that thinking good thoughts in relation to a specific thing will affect it on any way are deserving of mockery.

      It’s religion for people who don’t like organized religion.

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        There are people who deny Reality is made of vibrations. They are absolutely deserving of kind & respectful correction, because it’s a wrong view.

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        You’re changing the subject to auras and telekinesis: not what was being discussed.

        What will the mockery get for you?

        • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Hopefully the people mocked will adapt to social pressure and change their beliefs in order to fit in better. Bullying generally does work, even if it sucks. The only alternative is to simply murder the ones you disagree with and that sucks even more for multiple reasons, chiefly that right now numbers are against us.

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            2 months ago

            Do you know this first-hand? Give us an example of a belief you hold primarily because of bullying.

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              I’d say every belief in the entirety of my socialization as a child was formed through bullying of some sort. You try something, people laugh, mock, beat, harass, it feels bad, your social brain says that was bad, you remember it because it feels bad, you adjust and don’t repeat to avoid feeling bad again.

              That’s how human communities select for behaviour.

              As an adult I’d say whether I like it or not I’ve become increasingly more tolerant of conservatives because of them shoving their shit down our throats everywhere. Things I’d consider so absurd they’re not worth the time of day are now ideas that seem almost sensible enough to warrant a rebuttal. I don’t like it, but they hold all the cards and make the rules and it works well for them, imo.

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      2 months ago

      This is what I don’t like about the top meme, though. Like, yes, energy, frequency, and vibration are all things. Obviously. But the top meme is implying that everyone should believe that those things work in the specific ways that the woo practitioners say they do, and that’s a very different demand. More, it’s implying that people who doubt those effects are ignoring obvious evidence, when in fact the people who doubt those effects do so because nobody has been able to demonstrate reliable evidence for them. It has a nasty gaslighting overtone to it.

      • frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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        There’s not enough information in the top meme to know what theories it’s about.

        Things vibrate in a way that isn’t obvious to an unexamined view. If I look at a pebble, it appears to be non-vibratory, still. But a mystic or scientist who has really investigated it closely, exposed it to close analysis, can tell you that the reality of the pebble is vibration, not stillness.

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          I mean, it’s talking about people thinking that “energy, frequency and vibration are just mystical nonsense.” People don’t think that if you talk about an FM station broadcasting on a particular frequency, or about the frequency of light absorbed by particular atomic orbitals. They think that if you’re explaining that you’ve slept much better since you placed jasper and amethyst on the ley lines near your bed to absorb the negative frequencies.

          The implication in the meme that anyone who is using these terms cannot be indulging in mystical nonsense, because these terms can also apply to real things. In fact, though, mystic cranks have been coopting scientific terms for ages, and they show no signs of slowing down. It’s a real problem that people confuse crap with science.