• 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Hobbit rockets never leave the ground. They use pipe-weed as fuel and, by T plus 60 of any launch, the engineers are all giggling on the launch pad eating funions as a quick post-elevenses snack.

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    4 months ago

    This is more of an orbital nuclear defense question since Mordor has a pretty in depth strategy against this sort of threat. Frodo probably didn’t consider this option because of the Pan-Middle Earth nuclear deescalation agreement of the second age, sub section 2, page five, which if violated could have big international downstream effects.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Counterpoint.

    What if they buried it, like real deep, like 50m+ deep.

    It was at the bottom of a river for 2500 years, it’s honestly more effective than taking the ring right into enemy land.

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      4 months ago

      If you read the books, a lot of people thought Sauron wasn’t ever getting the One back because they were convinced it must’ve been swept out to sea.

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            Too risky.
            What if the huge lump of steel ends up having a hole (imperfection, which would be caused by the will of Sauron affecting the Dwarven workers’ concentration) and someone then puts a finger in it?

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              Have guards at a safe distance ready to flood the casting floor with molten iron, while the dwarves are working. It may be cruel, but an influenced dwarf wouldn’t get away with the ring.

              Imperfections would be acceptable. I mean once the ring is encased in 2 tons of steel good frigging luck getting to it unnoticed.

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                Do we know what powers the ring gives to a dwarven smith?
                Would he be able to find a way to escape incoming molten metal the moment he put his finger in a 2 ton steel sphere?

                What if he ends up with the power to mould metal by thought? He might just manage to deform the same piece of steel and use it to prevent the molten metal from getting to him and then use it to create stilts and a shield for incoming guard attack?


                Ok, maybe they can just make a cast, separately, away from the ring’s influence and then get Frodo to drop the ring in the molten metal right after it part of it has been poured in.
                But what if the ring ends up floating or sinking during the hardening (cooling down) process, making it accessible to touch, but at the same time, hard enough to detect?

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      No but I’m sure it lt would literally (read: narratively) affect any mortal programming the computer, or setting the LLM out with such a purpose.

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        affect any mortal programming the computer

        You don’t need the ring nearby when programming the computer.

  • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Really it was a time issue. Even if you assume the hobbits of the Shire had both the technological capacity to create a functional guided rocket and the industrial capacity to manufacture it ready to go, it takes around about a decade to bring a rocket development program from conception through to completion, even optimistically. Factor in the fact that there’s a single unique and irreplaceable payload and if you fail to hit the target you’ve basically delivered the ring to Sauron, given it’s apparent indestructibility, the reliability requirements would push the development time back a lot. It might take 20 or 30 years for the rocket to truly be ready for that mission. They were only able to confirm that what they’ve found actually is the one ring less than a couple years from when Sauron would have invaded everyone, so even with the most optimistic possible appraisal of the military industrial complex of the free peoples of Middle Earth there simply wasn’t time. It’s one of those projects where throwing more bodies at it just slows things down.

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      Well it’s interesting that it makes regular ringing/metallic sounds when it’s dropped(at least in the movies), so it is not inelastic. Which means it could be deformed if placed under extreme force but it would always spring back into shape. So I think it might be the world’s most powerful spring.

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    Because Elrond cut the the budget of Revendell NASA to spend more money on some project to make elves self-deport.

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    This is what I was waiting for. You know the theory of the eagles and Tom bombadil having the power to save everyone and not using it? What if the reason they didn’t is because they can’t. As in when they enter mordor they lose their power. Whereas the hobbits were removed from the magical doings of the world and therefore somewhat immune. Even galaxriel was temtpted by the ring. Bobmbadil probably only has power in his forest and the eagles only showed up after sauron’s defeat but the eagles were on the spot right quick. Meaning they had to be close by. Which means they probably intended to be there and were waiting for wards to drop so they could help. Maybe.

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        Yeah, and the AA capabilities of Saruman would mean that even a highly manoeuvrable hypersonic cruise missile would have pretty low chances to get past, while the Sauron’s eye seems like it could mess with onboard electronics.

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    https://youtu.be/p1-ExbgKUUI

    There was a gif or a video montage of Boromir trying to catapult the ring to Mordor. Im on the move and cant search properly. But would be ideal for this discussion.

    Edit: as per rule of the universe, found it after posting.