You know the old saying, ‘Get a job doing the thing you love, and you’ll never work a day in your life!’?
That’s really bad advice. Get a job doing something you like, but not your passion. If you burn out on your passion, you’ve lost the thing that brings you joy.
The real advice is to realize that every job has components that are not fun.
There are professional athletes who still love to play their sport, and intend to retire into coaching, but hate dealing with marketing and promos and media availability. Lots hate the travel. Some don’t like some of their teammates or coaches.
I know doctors who hate dealing with the paperwork, and programmers who hate dealing with documentation or testing, and lawyers who hate tracking their timesheets. But each of these are part of the job. The question is whether the entire bundled package deal is a pretty good job or not for yourself.
The question is whether the entire bundled package deal is a pretty good job or not for yourself.
That’s a great way of putting it. Unfortunately, the drudgery of each job is rarely explained or even acknowledged to young people entering the workforce. That’s how we end up with burnt out people in their 20s and 30s.
This also happens when people who love to cook at home get convinced to open a restaurant. There’s a reason why restaurants have cooks/chefs and managers that do the admin stuff, and loads of other delegation. Cooking food and giving it to people you know for free when they’re at your home is not the same as asking a world full of Karens to pay for your take on Mac n Cheese
Yeah, this is 100 percent true. It doesn’t even have to be what you do for a living. I used to really enjoy cooking, but once I got a family and had to cook meals every day, whether I felt like it or not, it became a chore. As chores go, it was still better than most, but it stopped being something I looked forward to.
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I used to love computers… still do, but good god do I hate tech companies and all this shit it’s spawned. My last remaining line of defense mentally is that at work we have shifted to a mostly Windows environment, and my interests lie with the Unix side of things.
Mine is being able to self host services that have been enshittified by the tech companies. I tried to watch Fallout on Prime legitimately but their servers couldn’t handle the volume. I had it on my Jellyfin server in the time it would have taken the episode to fully buffer.
Haha, god bless, that’s the spirit!
all numbers are imaginary
It’s more complex than that
Don’t be irrational
I really loved reading until i started middle school. And by the time i graduated i no longer found any enjoyment in reading.
I’ve tried so hard to enjoy it again as an adult because there’s not that academic pressure, but now i even feel apathetic about reading stories I am interested in.
I used to want to write
I used to want to make games for people to play and enjoy
Now I just want to get by and i hate myself for it
Audiobooks helped me get back into reading. It’s a different medium, but I’m still getting the story.
And now I can enjoy a good story and fold laundry or do other chores at the same time.
I like audio books, but i have really bad retention when listening to them. I will just zone out and miss everything. :c
I really loved reading until i started middle school. And by the time i graduated i no longer found any enjoyment in reading.
An education system that takes away the enjoyment of reading from people is rotten.
That sounds a bit like burnout, to be honest. I stopped reading for a few years, too, and didn’t even know why, I was just not “in the mood” or at least I thought so. I have picked it up again this year and ultimately realized that my job was stressing me out. I was constantly worried about problems at work, but for reading, you need a calm mind.
Quitting my job and going to another company this year was one of the best decisions ever. Since then I have found time for hobbies (and losing weight) again. I also read on a WiFi-less eBook reader and put my phone into another room, so I cannot get distracted.
I’m gonna be real, idk if there’s a way for me to feel ok about life while I’m stuck working 40hrs+ a week.
And I can’t find a way to live while working less than that. I’m trying so hard to find another option.
It’s not your fault. Don’t hate yourself and don’t give yourself pressure. Relax and maybe it will happen, or maybe it won’t. Either way, don’t push yourself.
I am a first year student in electronics engineering.
I loved watching fun youtube videos on math (ex. 3blue1brown) but was not fond of high school math, due to the lack of proofs and deeper understanding.
Nowadays the stuff I used to watch for fun turned into my job and I couldn’t be happier. Finally getting to do real science feels good.
Unlike high school math, I loved high school physics but that one was mostly due to my way of learning. Which is with lots of visualisations in my head and lots of calculus to prove the formulas they made us memorize.
These days, even though my books give me the proof right away, I sometimes don’t look at the proof because I miss the magic of fiddling with calculus for hours to find it myself.
I love computers but I felt like my love would diminish if I picked CS as a major. Mostly due to the monotonous nature of the job environment. But i am pretty sure my love for electronics is undying and unlike computing I have heaps to learn about electronics so I picked it.
Is electronics engineering different from electrical engineering?
Electrical engineering includes large-scale power systems, where electronics engineering is mostly small scale instrumentation, computers, etc
Calling academia “evil incarnate” for that is a bit much.
Yeah, they didn’t even mention peer reviews!
no its really not
Grad school really took a heavy toll on my mental health, but it didn’t take my love of the field. Diving into the literature on plant development was… Like, I would go for a walk outside and look at all the foliage and it was like I could see the code of the matrix. Auxin flowing along the edges, pooling to form leaves and lobes and then diving down into the interior to form vascular connections. CUC expressing in the primordia then hollowing out to define the boundaries. PINs relocalizing to reenforce the auxin flow. Ad/abaxial gene cohorts defining the leaf polarity and thereby orientation. It was like some wonderful second sight that showed me worlds that had once been hidden to me. It was this almost transcendental experience and I’ve never forgotten it even as I’ve moved on other fields.
I’ve never had quite the same experience since, but I still have found that, to me, learning what’s behind the mystery often makes it more magical, not less
For me studying for my master’s was the more fun part than studying for my bachelor’s. The bachelor’s studies included a lot of obligatory subjects that were less interesting to me, or choices that didn’t include any fun options.
In the master’s studies we were free to specialize much more. There was lots of work, but it was interesting. Like building a small OS. Or reading the newest networking papers and discussing their merit. Or implementing congestion control for ourselves, and playing around with ideas on how to maximise its efficiency.
Now I’m a network engineer at an ISP and things are much more practice focused and I had to learn a ton that wasn’t taught at uni, or was taught to electrical engineers instead of me, to get into things, but it’s still fun and interesting.
I don’t know what the difference is, or how to get my outcome instead of the 4channers, but I just wanted to share an opposite anecdote.
Academia killed my love of reading. I can’t even read for pleasure anymore
That’s what high school did to me. I had a nasty reading disability (still do) but these days I just reread shit when it doesn’t sink in. And if I still don’t get it, I just keep rereading it until it finally does. Simple, right? Well high school me spent god knows how long obsessing over how to fix my reading problems, even though the solution was pretty simple
So true. As a kid a was in a booklovers’ mail club where I’d get a couple books appropriate for my age and I loved it. I always was working through something up through high school and college.
But grad school required reading hundreds of pages of research for class every week and I was just exhausted from it. I think I only made it through the Harry Potter books throughout my PhD. I go through periods where I’ll get through a couple books, and there’s a few writers I follow, but I haven’t gotten back to loving reading the way I used to.
yeah, having to read and pretend to understand a hundred or so pages of legal briefs every day was… not good. i wasn’t even in laws school.
Uh… I did learn about imaginary numbers in high school. It was part of the ranking test to get into uni, even.
There’s a difference between imaginary numbers and all numbers are imaginary.
BIANAM (but I am not a mathematician)
I used to like math too
when were were counting lil squares on the paper and when were awarded a piece of candy or one of those smelly erasers
but then they were like “hey why don’t you just solve this simple problem? its about identifying perpendicular lines on a graph to find an angle measure in a right triangle. but were not gonna tell you what the number is. hell, were not even gonna give you a graph. or a pencil. or a paper. you’re gonna have to make your own paper and pencil. and here’s a essay for some fucking reason, cause this is math and you need to write a fucking 31 page ESSAY about TRIANGLES!!!”
that was math for me :)
I work in what a lot of people would call a calling. I’m extremely happy coding, writing and doing research. I got a PHD and even that didn’t kill the joy I get doing it. I work in a big fortune 500 company doing it and that didn’t kill my joy either.
My biggest piece of advice for people afraid to get jobs within their interests is: take care of yourself. You’ve got to find other interests and stabilize yourself when you’re drained. There’s a lot exhaustion overlapping with joy suck here that has nothing to do with no longer enjoying your interest.
Sometimes you’re drained from the job - because it’s a job. Or grad school.
Or the skill / interest is genuinely hard and not as playful as before because you got to a really difficult part, like super advanced mathematics. That’s true with a lot of skills. You go far enough, and it’s genuinely difficult to learn, understand, and grow. And then it’s up to you if you can still find your passion in it or not.
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They tought us about imaginary numbers in A levels (16-17) here, do they not even teach them in undergrad in the US??? I struggle to believe that.
OP isn’t referencing “the imaginary numbers” as in the set of numbers that are multiples of the square root of -1. They’re referencing the fact that in grad school, you’re told “forget everything you’ve been taught about math up to now. We’re going to start with a couple of basic assumptions, and extrapolate all of Cartesian Algebra (the math taught in preschool through undergrad) from those assumptions. Now, let’s see what other algebras we can create by changing those assumptions.”
The only two “numbers” that need to exist to derive all of Cartesian Algebra are zero (additive identity) and one (multiplicative identity). All other numbers are just convenient identifiers that can be extrapolated rather than assumed, hence the overly simplified “all numbers are imaginary”.
This is similar to other STEM subjects, like how in Physics you’re taught Newtonian physics, then you’re taught why Newtonian physics is just a tiny subset of relativistic physics, and then in grad school you are taught everything you know is just a tiny subset of quantum mechanics. What’s taught in undergrad is “good enough” for your average person to do really complex things in typical day to day life, but for someone dedicating their academic career to the subject, they need to learn the dirty, overly complex details to have a true understanding of the subject.
They taught you that “all numbers are imaginary” in A levels?
Only numbers that are imaginary are those that do not correlate to real world quantities
