There was an episode of TNG where the crew was being eaten alive by “inter-phasic” aliens and Dr. Crusher could only see them by using her IP Scanner (hee hee). So my question is: how does Starfleet know they wont phase into a layer of spacetime inhabited by, say, giant spaceship eating worms?
“Why do you need another warp 5 core? These things are hard to make, you know!”
“Well, we plugged the last two you gave us together… In case you’re wondering, we did NOT hit warp 10, however, we found all kinds of new radiations to study!”
Wording is important. It isn’t a cloaking device. It may also cause the user to become invisible, but it is not a cloaking device.
Much in the way that a handgonne isn’t a pistol. And how a flintlock pistol isn’t legally considered a firearm in the United States (as the founding fathers intended)
That said? The romulans would use any excuse they feel like to launch an attack. They won’t care that it isn’t a cloak. They’ll say it doesn’t matter and the intention of the treaty was clear. Ultimately they don’t care about wording over intent, they’ll interpret the treaty in whichever way is most favorable for themselves and hope they’re still standing when the dust settles.
That said, I think any attack they launch would merely be a test of starfleet’s response. “if we attack are they going to let us keep what we take in exchange for ‘peace’, will they fight for its return, or would they press a counter-attack?” kind of thing.
It wasn’t a cloaking device, it was a phase shift device which the Romulans also experimented with.
It was both.
Somewhere else it’s mentioned that the Klingons also worked on the concept.
I’d argue that a device that also happens to render the user invisible is not inherently a cloaking device.
A flintlock pistol is not legally a firearm in the US, and that distinction matters to quite a few people around here.
Now, ultimately the end result is the same (invisibility/shooty stick go boom) so in the end, the romulans would still consider it a cloak.
There was an episode of TNG where the crew was being eaten alive by “inter-phasic” aliens and Dr. Crusher could only see them by using her IP Scanner (hee hee). So my question is: how does Starfleet know they wont phase into a layer of spacetime inhabited by, say, giant spaceship eating worms?
That’s the neat part, they don’t!
This just reinforces my head canon that other species are terrified of humans for being so reckless with technology.
“Why do you need another warp 5 core? These things are hard to make, you know!”
“Well, we plugged the last two you gave us together… In case you’re wondering, we did NOT hit warp 10, however, we found all kinds of new radiations to study!”
horrified Vulcan stares
18 USC § 921(a)(16) disagrees with you
So, would it fall under projectile weaponry like a cannon/artillery?
Then it wouldn’t have violated the treaty…
That the official Federation position is that Pressman violated the Treaty of Algernon is, in my view, the best argument that it is a cloaking device.
Wording is important. It isn’t a cloaking device. It may also cause the user to become invisible, but it is not a cloaking device.
Much in the way that a handgonne isn’t a pistol. And how a flintlock pistol isn’t legally considered a firearm in the United States (as the founding fathers intended)
That said? The romulans would use any excuse they feel like to launch an attack. They won’t care that it isn’t a cloak. They’ll say it doesn’t matter and the intention of the treaty was clear. Ultimately they don’t care about wording over intent, they’ll interpret the treaty in whichever way is most favorable for themselves and hope they’re still standing when the dust settles.
That said, I think any attack they launch would merely be a test of starfleet’s response. “if we attack are they going to let us keep what we take in exchange for ‘peace’, will they fight for its return, or would they press a counter-attack?” kind of thing.
Maybe I’m over thinking it.